Stalling with HF tune

[sicmadek]

Let's be civil and not resort to calling names like grade school children.

While that may be what he said, we all knew what he meant. Even if that wasn't the case as someone misunderstood what he said, he's clarified the statement, so there is no argument. For a stock motor N/A quad cab, the fastest one was tuned by Hemifever.

Furthermore, if you want to open that can of worms, what prevents someone from dropping in a 500+ cubic inch motor and comparing it to a stock 5.7L setup? It would be a ridiculous, and frankly a useless comparison.

$$$$$$$ and resources is what prevents people from dropping the badass motors in their trucks. Matt will soon be the fastest 4th gen for a long time because he has the means to do it.

 

[Ramsfan78]

Update**

UPDATE**

Ok so I have talked back and forth with Sean and after sending a few logs his way and a couple updated tunes, my cornering/turning issue is totally resolved!!!

I recorded a couple more logs today and sent them to him (after he sent me an email to check on my status I might add) and I'm waiting to hear back from him.

All in all, I think he's going to be able to smooth all this out completely which is awesome!

I just want to say, Sean is by far the BEST way to go if you're going to have a tuner for your truck. I mean, I figure if Im gonna have a tuner for my truck, Id rather have someone like Sean on board to work out all the kinks rather than be stuck wih a canned tune that I don't like. Not to mention the customer service skills this guy has. You can't go wrong! This post was NEVER meant to speak ill of Sean or his abilities which are by far, unmatched. I merely wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing this so that I could get it resolved. I'd like to thank Hemi450hp for guiding me to Sean with this issue in the forst place. Good looking out brother!

I will post up any details if Sean sends me an updated BADASS tune.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

$$$$$$$ and resources is what prevents people from dropping the badass motors in their trucks. Matt will soon be the fastest 4th gen for a long time because he has the means to do it.

Yes and no.

I guarantee you Matt has less money in his truck than I have in mine as his sits. That's before he does the nitrous or the big motor. I know this for a fact.

So really it isn't about money, because there are PLENTY of people that have spent more money on their trucks than him and aren't as fast.

What Matt has more than anyone else is knowledge and the dedication to set these records. Anyone could do it; nothing on his truck when he ran the 12.49 is all that expensive or ridiculous. I think the hardest thing he did was the skinnies up front. He just knows what mods will help and he has the dedication to do track prep and go out every friday.

 

[Ramsfan78]

I'm talking about the canned tune. Everything I have said was true.

His truck was pulling as much as 14 degrees of ST what ever he was hearing I assure you was not knock. That ment the sensors were working and pulling timing and even with the 93 octane tune he ran a max of 5.5 degrees with the 14 pulled. That is not enough timing to detonate.

The statement I spoke about Seans tune would stand true for any CMR tune, it's a safe global statement.

What he was saying isn't possible with the other statements he has said. I should know... If you could have me show you what I ment you would understand. Sheesh you try and teach some people things and they still get defensive.... Can't win.

In a nutshell the odd sound is gone without the canned tune...great! He still has ST knock issues from me looking back on threads. Possible rattle, loose sensors, oil in the intake manifold. The tune didn't solve his problem it masked it, which any custom tune should do. He still has more potential in the truck if he figures out the culprit.

Jay

Brother, I'm not here to argue. When I was bone stock and went WOT on 89, 91 or 93 octane, I had ZERO knocks or gas pings. Couldn't hear a thing. I got my trinity and loaded up the canned tune and BAM - ping. Unloaded it and went back to stock and nothing. Now whether or not it was "real knock" or "false knock" I don't know. Whether or not it was masked with Sean's tune, I don't know that either. I just know it's gone! The knock that shows on the tuner now usually is only under load or during shifting which suggests false knock. I can handle that but when I see the tuner reading 14.00 knock and HEAR an audible noise like gas ping under the canned tune, I'm obviously gonna associate that with the canned tune.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Watch out guys, we got a badass over here.

Jay, instead if telling us how stupid we are and that we should just shut up and let you spoon feed us your holy knowledge, you should actually prove something.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see what comes of this cam and head deal you're working on, but until you actually beat what sean has done you need to stop acting like you're better than he is. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Ramsfan78]

All I'm saying is if the PCM is pulling 14 degrees your not going to be hearing knock. Your running at most 4.5 degrees of timing if it's the 93 tune, odds are the motor made odd noises due to no power and running rich.

I'm trying to inform people instead of just yelling Hemifever Hemifever Hemifever!!!

**** listen to what I'm saying people you might learn something....

I am not a avg user but a knowledgable person in this field. People wouldn't be correcting Sean are if he was making my statements so don't do the same to someone in the same field with lots of knowledge under his belt.

I'm on here to help not start ****, don't push me...

This isn't targeted but global to everyone that ignores what I say.

1. I'm not yelling "Hemifever, Hemifever, Hemifever".
2. I am listening to what everyone is saying. No need to be condescending.
3. I'm not pushing, so relax.
4. You sound like you need a hug.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

You literally just got done talking about how you were an expert and we should shut up and listen. You're very clearly trying to detract from Hemifever here by saying his tune is covering up other issues.

But I'm done. You can have the last word, because I sincerely doubt you'll drop any opportunity to bash hemifever.

 

[sicmadek]

You literally just got done talking about how you were an expert and we should shut up and listen. You're very clearly trying to detract from Hemifever here by saying his tune is covering up other issues.

But I'm done. You can have the last word, because I sincerely doubt you'll drop any opportunity to bash hemifever.

Basically you are a moron compared to jay or sean when it comes to tuning anything. Which is why you cant understand what he is saying. Just because you buy parts and get on a forum does mean ****. What does jay have to prove to you? He can tune and you cant. Thats the end of it right there.

 

[Ramsfan78]

Basically you are a moron compared to jay or sean when it comes to tuning anything. Which is why you cant understand what he is saying. Just because you buy parts and get on a forum does mean ****. What does jay have to prove to you? He can tune and you cant. Thats the end of it right there.

I am not necessarily playing sides here but Jay seemed to be argumentative and condescending in just about every one of his replies. Now I am not questioning the man's ability to tune a truck so let's establish that right now. I think it just rubs people the wrong way when he talks down to people who may not know what he knows.

Being a confident businessman is one thing but displaying an overbearingly cconceited attitude toward "potential customers" is not very good business sense. The truth is, he may be a great tuner but he has a lot to learn from Sean in the ways of customer service. And that's a fact Jack.

 

[sicmadek]

I am not necessarily playing sides here but Jay seemed to be argumentative and condescending in just about every one of his replies. Now I am not questioning the man's ability to tune a truck so let's establish that right now. I think it just rubs people the wrong way when he talks down to people who may not know what he knows.

Being a confident businessman is one thing but displaying an overbearingly cconceited attitude toward "potential customers" is not very good business sense. The truth is, he may be a great tuner but he has a lot to learn from Sean in the ways of customer service. And that's a fact Jack.

Sean and jay are both great tuners. When jay tries to give advice and help someone on here they disregard the fact that he may be right. He charges for tunes yes but he gives free advice. People are so stuck up seans ass on here.

 

[Ramsfan78]

Sean and jay are both great tuners. When jay tries to give advice and help someone on here they disregard the fact that he may be right. He charges for tunes yes but he gives free advice. People are so stuck up seans ass on here.

I don't believe I disregarded anything. All I know is that I tried to explain the situation, for example the "knock" I was experiencing, and I was told it's impossible. Now whether or not as I said earlier it was real knock or false knock I don't know. I just know I heard it with my own ears and I will not be told otherwise regardless of how much someone knows.

 

[Ramsfan78]

********....

I'm not allowed to market on here so I don't lobby customers.

Just because what I say goes over everyone's heads I'm being condescending lol

No, but when you tell people to shut up and listen to you it comes off as you are being condescending

 

[Ramsfan78]

No, but when you tell people to shut up and listen to you it comes off as you are being condescending

And there you go again, "goes over everyone's head's". Tell me that is not condescending. I say, ********!

 

[Ramsfan78]

Here's my stance. I don't know enough to argue with anyone about anything regarding tuning on here. All I can do is speak the facts as I see them and then research the answers given. Haha. I'm always interested to see what people who are more knowledgeable than I am say about the issues that come up. I will very rarely argue about the information provided, only the way it is presented.

With this being said, all this drama **** aside, what could the "knock" or ping that I was hearing be? If you've ever had an older carbuerated can and gotten ahold of some bad gas, the gas knock that you hear is what I heard with the canned tunes. Old heads used to call it "low octane gas-knock". That's what it sounded like and that's when the knock reading was showing 14.00

 

[Ramsfan78]

I also might add that when this was happening I did not notice a loss of power. Also, it would only do it under wide open throttle and just before it shifted.

 

[sicmadek]

I don't believe I disregarded anything. All I know is that I tried to explain the situation, for example the "knock" I was experiencing, and I was told it's impossible. Now whether or not as I said earlier it was real knock or false knock I don't know. I just know I heard it with my own ears and I will not be told otherwise regardless of how much someone knows.

Im sure you heard something but if the engine was pinging enough to pull 14 degs damage could be done. That is a crazy amount of knock which is why jay said could be false caused by something else. Something tapping on a manifold or something could cause it.

 

[Ramsfan78]

With 14 degrees pulled off the canned tunes timing tables it had to have lost power, maybe only for a split second but it did slowing the momentum into the shift. Kinda like hitting a limiter, but instead of fuel cut its spark cut.

Ok that makes sense.

 

[DavidRam]

I just read this entire thread and... Uuhh, hmmm... Well, Ramsfan I am glad to hear your truck is back to normal, and to the rest of you I am glad the cat fight is over, lol! Now you guys need to kiss and make up.


@ Jay. Bro, you really need to take some classes in effective communication... I mean that in a nice way.

 

[TXLimited]

Damn!! This thread took a turn... Ramsfan, good to hear all is well with yours now, looking forward to getting mine tweaked and running smoothly!