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Still working on the tune, cant raise shift points over stock (5600) or it leans out too much...
Aeromotive Stealth 340 fuel pump, water/**** kit

How can you lean it out with ****? Put some more **** in it. I'm running 70/30 by weight and it actually richens up when the **** kicks on.
 

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How can you lean it out with ****? Put some more **** in it. I'm running 70/30 by weight and it actually richens up when the **** kicks on.


You cut my quote off too soon, not installed yet

Still working on the tune, cant raise shift points over stock (5600) or it leans out too much
Aeromotive Stealth 340 fuel pump, water/**** kit and L&M Customs transmission to be installed



My CMR tuner wont dyno mine until I install the upgraded fuel pump he got me,
...but here's my track Bud's run (same truck/mods but a quad cab 4x4)

(run stopped just short of 500hp even though it was still climbing due to stock fuel pump running out of juice after 5600 rpm)


Run was from 4 months ago,
Water/**** Kit just arrived recently and was not installed = lean


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Next hurdle, if we have the fuel (**** or gas) to raise shift points by 400rpm
to 6000 rpm or higher...boost levels will easily exceed 10psi
...and certainly not safe for stock 5.7L pistons

So we may need a larger pulley, or a better engine build
...only one is a cheap fix.
 

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I have plenty of fuel with the ****, a stock pump and -6 lines to the fuel rails to shift at 5800. Haven't tried any higher yet....mostly due to no friggin place to play around here. Good lord SoCal is packed with cars.
 

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Do you not have any access to a track??? I'd be there in a heartbeat!
even if I had to drive 4 hours to get there man! Post some time Slips!

How much boost are you hitting at 5800? Have you dyno'd it yet?
My guy says I cant push a 5300 brick into the wind at 500whp without going lean at WOT with stock pump

I bumped my stock shift points to 5800 and it hit well over 9psi WAY too high
immediately put it back to stock and wont tweak anything again until its custom tuned.

The part that really has me perplexed is my wideband is reading rich all the way up to 5500,
its reading high 10's..when it should be high 11's mid 12's

My CMR suggested its best to install my pump,
water **** kit and new Bullet Proof transmission and he'll custom dyno tune it and toss Ripp's generic tune.

September 26th was the earliest I could book a full day of dyno time at his shop though,
Worth the wait though, he's one of the Best Hemi tuners in all of Western Canada.

It's going to delay me getting to the track until then
and it closes two weeks after my scheduled tuning session for the Winter...until next May.

The Track is my second home, and the wait is Killing Me!

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I just installed the Magnuson TVS2300 on my truck and it is a blast to drive now. I found that I like the root style supercharger better then the rest. If you go on youtube and type in superchargers types it will give you some good examples of the types of system available. I found that having the root style is good for 0-60 times because it starts making horsepower as soon as you step on the throttle. Keep in mind you need to choose gear size for the truck. If you install a supercharger you will be making a lot more horsepower and if you have a short gear you are just gonna spin when you leave. I found having the 3.55 with LSD is a great compromise for speed and MPG. I have not gone to the track yet, but I should get there in a few weeks after my vacation and get some numbers for you. I would like to try the 3.90 gear though just to see how bad it would be. Either way with the supercharger it will be a fun ride.
Dude your truck is Badass! Love the blue!

Sorry for thread jack.
 

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As much as I love going to the track...I'm here in SoCal to oversee a multi-million dollar project for Chevron...my "want to's" will just have to wait.
 

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As much as I love going to the track...I'm here in SoCal to oversee a multi-million dollar project for Chevron...my "want to's" will just have to wait.

Was it Dyno'd?
Have any numbers to put up? How much Boost are you getting out of the Pro-Charger?
Are you going to put a built transmission in it?
You do know the Stocker is a **** that easily burns the frictions off with minor bolt on's, right?

...or is it just a show piece?
(sorry if that sounds bad, but the question does come to mind)
 

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For anyone trying to weigh the differences between a Roots (twin screw, Whipple, Magnusson, Eaton)
vs a Centrifugal like Procharger/Vortech ...(Spools up similar to a large Turbo)

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I went with the Coolest running safest system, that was easiest on the motor and transmission
and even then decided on top of my intercooler and water to air heat exchanger
to further cool piston temps with water/****.

UNBROKEN and I both went with Water/**** kits from : AlcoholInjectionSystems.com
 

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Was it Dyno'd?
No. We literally got it running a few days before I moved out here. I ran out of time at home.
Have any numbers to put up?
Nope...see above.
How much Boost are you getting out of the Pro-Charger?
A solid 8psi
Are you going to put a built transmission in it?
Yes...once I find the time.
You do know the Stocker is a **** that easily burns the friction off with minor bolt on's, right?
I'm aware, yes.

...or is it just a show piece?
(sorry if that sounds bad, but the question does come to mind)

My goal is and always was a truck that does multiple things well...from the motor to the looks to the audio and interior and everything in between. One trick pony's don't interest me.
Is it a show piece? Of course it is....but don't underestimate that it makes some pretty real power. It's actually the lowest HP vehicle I've owned in about a decade. My last truck made over 900 at the wheels. My plans with this build lean more towards Pro-Touring/Autocross stuff rather than drag racing...right after this first Magazine shoot and SEMA this year.
 

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I was about to install my Water/**** kit last weekend,
only to find the instruction manual was missing all images diagrams and photos

I sent emails to Alcohol Injection Systems 3 times already asking for updated instructions....still no reply

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It's a very basic install....pics aren't really needed.
PM me if you have any questions.
 
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Thanks for all the info fellas!

Unbroken, thanks for clearing that up. Ive been a bit confused. So will Arrington simply do tuning? I may have the SC already. And I do have the trinity already. Im guessing they would have a great starting point since most all my mods are very common. LTH, Cat-back, TB, CAI, TC, Electric Fan, T-stat.

Thanks again for all the help yall.

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It's a very basic install....pics aren't really needed.
PM me if you have any questions.

After I laid out all the pieces to the puzzle it was easier to see the "Big" picture.
The pieces in my kit did not match the description and I have the dual nozzle upgrade,
They also included an extra tank tap fitting that confused me at first.
once I matched up the pump,connectors, fittings, nozzles, boost switch etc. it made more sense.

Did you tap your aluminum intake tube? seems a bit thin to me to hold the nozzles in place,
and it would probably better to have a couple secured bungs welded on. (or purchase a TB spacer and just tap into that)
Other than that I got it all figured out and found a great spot to mount my pump behind the drivers side headlight,
that puts the inlet just below the washer fluid tank, minimizing all electrical and plumbing line lengths

Still pissed me off that they ignored my email requests, didn't answer their phone,
or return phone calls after I left messages on their voice mail for updated instructions.
Starting to look like one of those companies that doesn't give a rats-ass once they have your money.
 

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i wish i had a super charger :( maby next summer. i got a turbo kit on my yamaha nytro snowmobile though :) 180+or so horsepower total output turbo added 40 or so horsepower to the 1050cc fourstroke powerplant. fun to drive heres a pic of my baby lol
 

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After I laid out all the pieces to the puzzle it was easier to see the "Big" picture.
The pieces in my kit did not match the description and I have the dual nozzle upgrade,
They also included an extra tank tap fitting that confused me at first.
once I matched up the pump,connectors, fittings, nozzles, boost switch etc. it made more sense.

Did you tap your aluminum intake tube? seems a bit thin to me to hold the nozzles in place,
and it would probably better to have a couple secured bungs welded on. (or purchase a TB spacer and just tap into that)
Other than that I got it all figured out and found a great spot to mount my pump behind the drivers side headlight,
that puts the inlet just below the washer fluid tank, minimizing all electrical and plumbing line lengths

Still pissed me off that they ignored my email requests, didn't answer their phone,
or return phone calls after I left messages on their voice mail for updated instructions.
Starting to look like one of those companies that doesn't give a rats-ass once they have your money.

I had bungs added when I had my polished aluminum piping built. Those nozzles will be fine in tubing though...they're designed for it. Just be easy with the tap and don't overtighten the nozzle.
You don't wanna put them behind the TB blade unless you verify the check valve won't bleed water through...from the TB blade back is under vacuum when off the throttle...it can suck water through the system without it being on.
 
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