Synthetic Oil

[U&A]

LoL, come on guys! It’s not all bad.


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

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[U&A]

I think SYN’s post was not necessarily against Amsoil itself but more geared towards the fact that The Amsoil post was Open ended .....kinda like this....


Iv been using the “pull out” method for years, works well



Just a guess though I’m not speaking for him.

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[AFMoulton]

I think SYN’s post was more geared towards the fact that The Amsoil post was Open ended .....kinda like this....


Iv been using the “pull out” method for years, works well



Just a guess though I’m not speaking for him.

Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

LMAO, valid!


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[SyN]

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Actually I subscribed to see if Mr McClintock will reply & what his reply would be.

No Disrespect was or ever is intended!

God Bless America!
God Bless the Republic!

 

[Burla]

per Kyle's find on machinelube, why we see almost every oil get cloudy when cold enough, but we never seen redline get cloudy. Would it be that redline would freeze at some point but still be clear? dunno, sounds possible...


What Causes Oil Cloudiness
There are many ways an oil can lose its shine. We've already mentioned soot, air and water (liquid and vapor) as common causes of cloudiness. The following list includes a few more:

Undissolved Additives. For various reasons, a properly formulated oil may lose additive solubility. This is referred to as additive drop out. Cold temperature can cause this in certain oils. The result is a slight cloudiness and even some precipitation (settling of the additive insolubles).

Dead Additives. The normal decomposition of certain additives during service can lead to white, flocky appearance of the oil.


But once again, someone choose a random test point of the oil, why? Because at his random test point any oil would operate, think back to viscosity charts, almost any oil winter rated 15 or lower with operate in -15, so he could put twenty or thirty or forty oils on his little ramp, and they all would have flowed similar. But, only 5 or 10 degrees cooler and that group 3 would have crawled, and redline would have flowed the same. That guy choose the random tempature of the test, WHY? WHY is the question, because he knew they would both flow. He could have really done something special by simply lowering the temp of that test 10 degrees, instead he choose a temp where oils are basically the same. Same with his hot test, purposely testing it lower then noack temps, what does that do? Once again, he could have really done something special and that would have been very easy, not like needing a special freezer to get to -25, it is easy to make a hot plate 500f, and that would have really showed the difference between esters/pao and mineral oil.

Someone posted a test, someone should expect it to be reviewed critically.

 

[Burla]

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Actually I subscribed to see if Mr McClintock will reply & what his reply would be.

No Disrespect was or ever is intended!

God Bless America!
God Bless the Republic!

im purdy sure that feller is long gone.

 

[SyN]

Yes I agree Burla! I was just expressing my Tuesday morning Smart A$$ Mode!

I do hope Mr Mc is still with us and on the Beach some where being served mix drinks!

 

[Burla]

Mr MC the creator, lol.

 

[Zack02]

Sorry I missed your question Hammer, Much better performance than ATF+4. The shifts are a bit quicker/smoother.

Sorry, you'll have to forgive me...were you running around in Tow/Haul 24/7? Or was that Syn? I have been having the occasional rough shift, once a week, maybe? You all were right, T/H eliminates those shifts all together. And either Costco switched to the summer blends, or T/H has picked me up 2 honest MPGs (highway). I'll be at 30k miles on this Mopar brand ATF by the end of this year and it'll be time to switch to the RL ATF.

Except for the few crazies up in the extreme north, the majority of engines will never see those extreme temps, so it's kind of pointless for the masses.

Just fyi, we just had this conversation a few pages back... -15 to -30 is about 1/4 of the US's average winter low temps (no wind chill) and is about 800,000 US Ram owners.

Iv been using the “pull out” method for years, works well

Lol, my child would tell you my skills aren't as 'well' as yours....

 

[Burla]

One thing is for sure, in every single cold flow test you see on the net, redline never gets cloudy, why? Most other oils cloud up, but this one doesn't. Even Motul a redline clone clouds up, guess maybe Motul is not what it says it is? We look at this one and tend to compare the result that Amsoil SS got super cloudy and slow here but we never discuss Motul. I kind of wish the guy would have put m1 0w30 in this test, or 0w30 Amsoil or Motul. Makes you wonder, if 5w30 redline is this clear at this cold, what would zero weight redline be? How cold would is take to make that one cloud up or slow down?







Anyway, I'm putting you guys on notice, tommorow I will become famous with like 100k youtube hits an hour, I will test every single 5w30 oil at 70F and prove they are almost all the same. It's gonna be great. Redline's gonna suck though, it will probably come in last place. Low viscosity oils, yeah they will win for sure. That test was a joke, a waste of time, people post garbage like that to attract the mindless masses who don't care either way. It's called PR, write to the lowest common denominator because it is the only way to succeed at your agenda. Masses of people will watch that funny test and actually believe that those two oils perform equally in the cold and the heat. Good news if Ram Forum has debunked all the oil gimmicks, or most of them, I love that about this place. Everyone here sees right through this.

 

[SyN]

^^^ I'll be perfectly honest with everyone within these walls.
I have never clicked on 1 of those videos on youtube.
In (my) little square world they are totally irrelevant.

 

[U&A]

Sorry, you'll have to forgive me...were you running around in Tow/Haul 24/7? Or was that Syn? I have been having the occasional rough shift, once a week, maybe? You all were right, T/H eliminates those shifts all together. And either Costco switched to the summer blends, or T/H has picked me up 2 honest MPGs (highway). I'll be at 30k miles on this Mopar brand ATF by the end of this year and it'll be time to switch to the RL ATF.



Just fyi, we just had this conversation a few pages back... -15 to -30 is about 1/4 of the US's average winter low temps (no wind chill) and is about 800,000 US Ram owners.



Lol, my child would tell you my skills aren't as 'well' as yours....

I use T/H exclusively

I think syn does too

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[SyN]

^^^I use T/H driving around town / Once on the Highway-Interstate I switch back.

 

[AFMoulton]

I use T/H exclusively

I think syn does too

Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

I’m about to start, after I put 4.88’s in.


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[Burla]

Just fyi, we just had this conversation a few pages back... -15 to -30 is about 1/4 of the US's average winter low temps (no wind chill) and is about 800,000 US Ram owners.



Lol, my child would tell you my skills aren't as 'well' as yours....

Not only that but many of them have been repoting issues here, as we that frequent this place know. I have a short list of oils I'd use if that were me, other then the obvious I like 0w30 m1. Buy guys should be putting thier oil in a jar and leave it outside and see for themselves. For some reason seeeing something is stronger then looking at a stat sheet. Also, in those spots old oil is even worse. When it gets that cold, no matter what I was using, I'd have a fresh oil change. Set up my oci so I'm doing an oil change in the begining of the mean season.


Daddy, thanks for not puling over, LOL.

 

[U&A]

I’m about to start, after I put 4.88’s in.


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

Good choice. You will love them. You going to go up to 35’s or stay around 34’s?


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[Burla]

I'm gonna call NASCAR, I think they have it all wrong, they should race to the middle like oil formulations. Used to be people would want to make the best oil they possibly could, now they just all want to be the same. So instead of giving the trophy to first place, we should hand it out to whoever comes in 20th? carry on

 

[AFMoulton]

Good choice. You will love them. You going to go up to 35’s or stay around 34’s?


Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

Stay with current 295/70R18 but maybe up to 315/70R18, or 285/75R18. But all the scenarios I ran and some formulas I found kept giving me a 4.23 or 4.28 ideal ratio, so I figured 4.88 would be good for that, return to stock feel, and a little extra fun.


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[U&A]

I'm gonna call NASCAR, I think they have it all wrong, they should race to the middle like oil formulations. Used to be people would want to make the best oil they possibly could, now they just all want to be the same. So instead of giving the trophy to first place, we should hand it out to whoever comes in 20th? carry on

*****. Im picking up what your putting down [emoji6]....but.....

In today’s world shouldn’t EVERYONE get a ribbon for participating in the race? They can all get the same prize so it is fair.




Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

 

[AFMoulton]

*****. Im picking up what your putting down [emoji6]....but.....

In today’s world shouldn’t EVERYONE get a ribbon for participating in the race? They can all get the same prize so it is fair.




Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

LoL, yeah fair......sooooo glad I’m in a career where if you want to do well, you have to work your ass off to earn it, otherwise you watch your peers pass you buy.


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper St MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 4 Qts 5W-30 and 3 Qts 0W-40
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30