Synthetic Oil

[HEMIMANN]

PUP 0w-40 reformulated. Must not be using anymore GTL. Pour point went from -51c to -36c

Sheared down anyway. I'd never use that stuff. Too bad FCA got hung up on it as a "one-size-fits-all" oil recommendation for global conditions they didn't understand. Wouldn't be good for engine longevity - sticking piston rings, solenoid orifices, etc.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Posted in blackstone already but figured id share here to.

Heres the latest sample on my durango hemi. This was the third oil change. Oil was in service from 2500 miles To 4968 miles. The last short drain im doing. Flagged items are not an issue as mobil 1 esp x2 VOA i have shows oxidation and sulfation are essentially unchanged. My VOA showed identical sulfation and 38.8 oxidation vs 38.1 on this UOA. Viscosity drop due to fuel which suprised me. I didnt expect to see fuel dilution.

You got a dribbly injector? Port injectors shouldn't make any unburned fuel into the oil at all.

 

[HEMIMANN]

That Noack on the 10W-30 got even better. For those of us with at least one DI Eco-tec in stable, that’s definitely something to consider.

Thanks.

Their 0W-30 is a dog, though, in terms of NOACK and HTHS Vis - compared to the other vis grades and to Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30. And likely to HPL's SC 0W-30, too. Looks to me like their VII additive isn't top notch?

 

[CanuckRam1313]

^^^ Speaking about M1 0W30 ESP oil....

I just did my oil & filter change last week and switched to this with 2x10oz bottles of Lubegard Biotech and using the RP20-820 as well.

Too dang bad the HPL SC 0W30 is over $500CDN for a single pail to my door here in Ontario Canada or I'd still be using it!!

We'll see how things go with this new oil/additive strategy. I'm going to run my typical 10,000km OCI and then send it in to Blackstone with TAN/TBN testing as well. With the amount of driving I do currently, I'll see 10K-km's in 4 moths or less

I'll post up the results of it and my previous HPL SC 0W30 results and we can all see the "tale-of-the-tape" as it were.

 

[Travis8352]

You got a dribbly injector? Port injectors shouldn't make any unburned fuel into the oil at all.

The only thing i can come up with is i went to a carshow the night before the oil change and i did an hour long mostly idle thru town where i goosed it probably 15 times. Maybe that dumped some extra fuel in the cylinder that didnt completely burn because they were brief launches kinda. Changed it next morning so perhaps it all didnt burn off? Just a theory anyway but thats all i can come up with

 

[HEMIMANN]

The only thing i can come up with is i went to a carshow the night before the oil change and i did an hour long mostly idle thru town where i goosed it probably 15 times. Maybe that dumped some extra fuel in the cylinder that didnt completely burn because they were brief launches kinda. Changed it next morning so perhaps it all didnt burn off? Just a theory anyway but thats all i can come up with

Ok - I've never had a port injected engine with a fuel dilution report. I've seen late model diesels with piezo injectors get it - when the injector gets weak.

The GDI car here had demonstrable fuel dilution @ 4,000 miles when I changed oil. Surely it had insoluble soot also, but it was all likely taken up by the DD additive in suspension, so isn't reported. Never let those GDI motors go beyond 5,000 mile OCI's!

 

[Yardbird]

If a port injector is leaking by, the MAP, IAT, ECT, or O2 sensors are reading incorrectly, you can get lots of unburned fuel into the engine.

 

[Travis8352]

Ok - I've never had a port injected engine with a fuel dilution report. I've seen late model diesels with piezo injectors get it - when the injector gets weak.

The GDI car here had demonstrable fuel dilution @ 4,000 miles when I changed oil. Surely it had insoluble soot also, but it was all likely taken up by the DD additive in suspension, so isn't reported. Never let those GDI motors go beyond 5,000 mile OCI's!

Ive seen some 6.4s get fuel dilution over on bobs

 

[HEMIMANN]

Ive seen some 6.4s get fuel dilution over on bobs

Diagnosis provided?

 

[Travis8352]

Diagnosis provided?

Never saw one. They all just say "fairly normal for the 6.4"

 

[RidgeRunner_167]

Thanks.

Their 0W-30 is a dog, though, in terms of NOACK and HTHS Vis - compared to the other vis grades and to Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30. And likely to HPL's SC 0W-30, too. Looks to me like their VII additive isn't top notch?

It's probably the viscosity spread with a cheaper VII, yes. Noack naturally suffers with a wider viscosity spread, except certain comparatively expensive base mixtures and VIIs.

 

[Burla]

Member Daniel brought this up today, I know we glanced over it a while back, probably a big mistake on my part. Just like si-1 leads the field, this stuff looks like it would be way more effective then sea foam. I wouldn't put it through vac lines it is so harsh, but right into tb yes. They have two preferred methods for this reason. Reminds me of old carb cleaners we cant get in CA, I wonder if we can get this here? Remember, this process may be as good or even better then si-1 at cleaning those piston tops. Tons of potential here, we need some one with some carbon on their pistons and a boro to try it out at some point. xylene versus alcohol for cleaner, no comparison.

 

[Burla]

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[White six four]

Member Daniel brought this up today, I know we glanced over it a while back, probably a big mistake on my part. Just like si-1 leads the field, this stuff looks like it would be way more effective then sea foam. I wouldn't put it through vac lines it is so harsh, but right into tb yes. They have two preferred methods for this reason. Reminds me of old carb cleaners we cant get in CA, I wonder if we can get this here? Remember, this process may be as good or even better then si-1 at cleaning those piston tops. Tons of potential here, we need some one with some carbon on their pistons and a boro to try it out at some point. xylene versus alcohol for cleaner, no comparison.

I saw Daniel post it so I bought the 8' hose with s hook from bimmerworld and ordered 2 cans off Amazon at $16 a piece from r a hoerr. Right before the next oil change, probably not for a good 2-3 months yet, on the wife's di 5.3 suburban my plan is to use a can through the throttle body. With the 8' hose i should be able to do it from inside while gassing it up as it says to do. If I have time I'll try getting some boroscope pics but I travel for work and time is limited when I'm home.

 

[Burla]

I saw Daniel post it so I bought the 8' hose with s hook from bimmerworld and ordered 2 cans off Amazon at $16 a piece from r a hoerr. Right before the next oil change, probably not for a good 2-3 months yet, on the wife's di 5.3 suburban my plan is to use a can through the throttle body. With the 8' hose i should be able to do it from inside while gassing it up as it says to do. If I have time I'll try getting some boroscope pics but I travel for work and time is limited when I'm home.

right on, and I think it would be appropriate for the si-1 thread when your done with your experience. It is competing against in-fuel treatments. There are incredible benefits from both! Sending PEA through injectors we now know cleans those injectors, plus si-1 does a very good job at cleaning piston tops and rings. However, in many cases it isn't a complete piston wash, and neither is sea foam which is just alcohol. This stuff has a lot of potential, but for us to realize we need proof, so much appreciated to everyone who tries. This isn't recommended through vac lines, those solvents are too harsh for that. It appears like redline subscribed the hard plastic air intake is ok, but I don't subscribe to that, if I am doing it I want this sucked through TB. Thanks RAM brother, looking forward to it.

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