Tell me why I shouldnt upgrade to a PW

[Nado]

I agree. On white they look good. Red too.

 

[Nado]

Mid grade fuel? Thought I read that 87 worked just fine?

 

[Fatbob Frank]

Btw my 2018 with 19k miles is for sale. It has the level two package. 65k sticker.

would sell it right now for 43k

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Wish that color was still available

 

[Fatbob Frank]

The biggest thing I tow is my 2020 2dr General on a 12' single trailer.
My 1500 Laramie does just fine.
I still want a P.W. for the awesomeness...

 

[392DevilDog]

Mid grade fuel? Thought I read that 87 worked just fine?

87 is fine. Unless you are working it hard in the heat. Then 89 might be needed.

I use my 6.4l hard and almost always just run 87

87 is required. 89 is recommended

 

[Dan l]

But with what packages/options?

 

[mtnrider]

Mid grade fuel? Thought I read that 87 worked just fine?

The engine will just retard the timing for a lower octane fuel. So slighter lower performance and mpg but doubt your butt dyno would notice.


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[Nado]

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Thanks. I would add a couple of items to that. But you still got that for under 50K? Sounds like I need to call up a dealer and have a chit chat with them.

 

[retired]

Thanks. I would add a couple of items to that. But you still got that for under 50K? Sounds like I need to call up a dealer and have a chit chat with them.

he said 53K not 50K..covid has changed things. supply and demand. plants shut down and dealer lots pretty sparse.

 

[SeppW]

87 is fine. Unless you are working it hard in the heat. Then 89 might be needed.

I use my 6.4l hard and almost always just run 87

87 is required. 89 is recommended

Must have been a change in MYs 15 to 16, in my OM it says, "89 Octane Recommended - 87 Octane Acceptable, 0-15% Ethanol." I run on recommended grade.

 

[Trailmaker]

Mid grade fuel? Thought I read that 87 worked just fine?

You will complain about msds “eco” mode if you don’t run at least mid grade due to vibrations from the retard timing.

 

[retired]

You will complain about msds “eco” mode if you don’t run at least mid grade due to vibrations from the retard timing.

I have never once noticed vibrations in msds and mine is in eco mode often. I get great mpg so it must be working correctly.

 

[Trailmaker]

I have never once noticed vibrations in msds and mine is in eco mode often. I get great mpg so it must be working correctly.View attachment 227765

The 8 spd has helped in this regard. This subject has been talked about more then tires ( yes that much) on this forum. and the dampers work well for the first 36k. Put some miles on your truck. Or 35s and run a whole tank of reg. Check out my thread “PW in the Smoky Mountains “ I just rolled 30k on this one 20k on the red one and 130k on my 2011.

 

[392DevilDog]

Must have been a change in MYs 15 to 16, in my OM it says, "89 Octane Recommended - 87 Octane Acceptable, 0-15% Ethanol." I run on recommended grade.

That is what I said. Lol. Except I said requiired instead of acceptable.

87 is acceptable. 89 is recommended. Premium offers no benefit and is suggested not to be used.

The only time I have found any benefit of 89 is in august while towing. I ran 89 for awhile. Then used 90 non ethanol. Then I used just 87.

In the winter i use 87. Winter fuel sucks. No use spending more money.

In July and August I use 89 on our longer camping trips. But i used 87 on the second trip July and had no change in mileage or power.

But...my truck has 143k on it now and I just do not feel like spending anymore money on gas than I have to

 

[Mace Peveler]

Why is premium not recommended? Silly me, that's all I use since I don't pay for my fuel.

 

[IRSmart]

Why is premium not recommended? Silly me, that's all I use since I don't pay for my fuel.

People misunderstand what “premium” means. It’s not a higher quality of fuel. It just has a different octane rating. An engine will not run “better” on a grade of fuel higher than what it is designed for, but it will run poorly if too low of a grade is used.

 

[Trailmaker]

Why is premium not recommended? Silly me, that's all I use since I don't pay for my fuel.

With some adjustments to your timing, mass air flow, ported injectors and a little reprogram, you could run premium. Won’t get the HP the srt is getting but it would be measurable. But 93 octane on a stock 6.4 won’t do a noticeable difference (possibly not even a dyno difference) at the crank.

 

[Dan l]

Thanks. I would add a couple of items to that. But you still got that for under 50K? Sounds like I need to call up a dealer and have a chit chat with them.

Final price was $47k after the rebates. They threw in a $1250 protection plan on the paint, interior and undercoating.

 

[dhay13]

Running a higher octane fuel than necessary does nothing but waste money. An engine will not run any better. Without getting into combustion theory the basics are that octane is a resistance to ignition. Pre-ignition, or detonation, kills an engine and higher octane will help prevent that but if your engine does not detonate on 89 octane the 93 octane will run no differently

 

[Dan l]

Here were the discounts they gave.