The problem with E-torque and Stop/Start.

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Nothing wrong with the E-torque, I think it is one of the better Stop/starts, so much smoother than the stater motor kind! No, the problem is the doofus 2 cars in front of you stopping about 30 feet from the guy in front of them, so he can text! so now you have sopped and you motor isn't running, but the ****** moves about 15 more feet so now you either have to put more wear and tear on the system and move 15 feet up, or the guy in the next lane say hey there is a open spot? :boxing: So you move the 15 and your motor is stopped again, and then the butt nugget finishes his text and moves the last 15 feet? So now you have done the start/stop 3 times, which should have only been once! :doh2:

Okay I am done ranting! I like the E-torque!
Can not say the same for the Texter! :biggun:
 

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I just stay put.... I don't give a rip what others think I should do.

Now if I'm in a left turn lane, I'll stay tucked up to the car in front of me to keep left turners behind me from maybe hanging out into the through traffic lane. Our left turns here in Florida don't always go first on green.
 

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so now you have sopped and you motor isn't running, but the ****** moves about 15 more feet so now you either have to put more wear and tear on the system and move 15 feet up, or the guy in the next lane say hey there is a open spot?

I personally turn off the start/stop in times like this (i.e. bumper to bumper traffic). Id rather burn some gas then have the e-torque pulley going off and on so much. What's a couple bucks at the pump compared to wearing out a $2000 component prematurely and in a time where replacements aren't readily available?
 

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I personally turn off the start/stop in times like this (i.e. bumper to bumper traffic). Id rather burn some gas then have the e-torque pulley going off and on so much. What's a couple bucks at the pump compared to wearing out a $2000 component prematurely and in a time where replacements aren't readily available?
So forgive me. But I’m guessing e-torque is not made for city stop n go driving? Seems weird to be made for gas mileage and it not perform well in city. Maybe I’m wrong which I am more often than not lol. Time to read up on it I guess
 

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What they said plus the 83,000 miles you have to have the truck before you break even on it.
 

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So forgive me. But I’m guessing e-torque is not made for city stop n go driving? Seems weird to be made for gas mileage and it not perform well in city. Maybe I’m wrong which I am more often than not lol. Time to read up on it I guess

Sorry let me rephrase, I turn it off when it's going to be a lot of stop and go at a quick enough pace where it's not really saving me any gas. I'm talking about QUICK stop and go traffic. This system saves me a TON of gas in the city at red lights, drive throughs and waiting to pull out into traffic.

When I see the flow of traffic is going to be like 3 seconds stopped and then 3 seconds moving pace -over and over again - I feel like the gas savings aren't there and all I'm doing is working the e-torque system overtime. It's just me babying the system - it never lets you down and it always instantly comes on and off no matter the pace. The e-torque is solid and makes my wife's BMW start/stop system feel cheap.
 

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Sorry let me rephrase, I turn it off when it's going to be a lot of stop and go at a quick enough pace where it's not really saving me any gas. I'm talking about QUICK stop and go traffic. This system saves me a TON of gas in the city at red lights, drive throughs and waiting to pull out into traffic.

When I see the flow of traffic is going to be like 3 seconds stopped and then 3 seconds moving pace -over and over again - I feel like the gas savings aren't there and all I'm doing is working the e-torque system overtime. It's just me babying the system - it never lets you down and it always instantly comes on and off no matter the pace. The e-torque is solid and makes my wife's BMW start/stop system feel cheap.
Ah. Makes a little more sense haha. Gotcha
 

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I just stay put.... I don't give a rip what others think I should do.

Now if I'm in a left turn lane, I'll stay tucked up to the car in front of me to keep left turners behind me from maybe hanging out into the through traffic lane. Our left turns here in Florida don't always go first on green.
:cheers: It is great to see considerate people on the road...just not enough of them:cheers:
 

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If I wanted to Stop and Start my truck, I would do so.

When my 5.7L HEMI is running, and belching out through its Borla Type-S cat-back, I do not STOP it unless I am done driving. I then START it when I'm ready to move forward (generally considerably more than 15', more than 1500' in fact, and almost always more than 15,000'.

I guess that's why we have so many options today. Take what you can use and leave the rest.
 

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Nothing wrong with the E-torquer!

Well, you're wrong there.

Recognizing that everyone has different goals/desires. If E-torque were the only way to get a 5th Gen I would either A) still have my 4th gen (most likely) or B) gone to one of the others.

Granted, E-Torque has some cool, and drivability-enhancing features. But the two restrictions that totally nullify even the thought of getting it on my truck are:
  • Start/stop. I understand, and even applaud the idea/effort on many/most "cars". And maybe that is the disconnect - most 1500 owners are just buying a "car" - the Good Lord knows how many truck owners refer to their modes of transport as "a car". Start/stop with a "truck exhaust" such as a Magnaflow, Flowmaster, Borla et al is as awkward as a kissing cousin.
  • It sits in the place of a Roots/Twin-Screw blower!!
 

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What other irritating and unsafe BS came with E Torgue, MDS? Time delay "re-timing of traffic lights" When E Torque and MDS BS was accepted by the socialist behind the CAFE and NHTSA standards. It allowed the manufactures to achieve MPG standards based on hypothetical, assumptive driving BS.,,,But they were so thrilled with what they got away with under the previous administration, their hunger for control went further. They talked with "Traffic Managers" The people who study traffic patterns traffic timing and light controls. Their pitch was/is,,,,One of the ways to maximize the benefit of MDS and stop start vehicles is to increase the red light time for stops and turns. You may have noticed that a red light you are familiar with has gone from 2 min to 2.5 or in some cases 3 mins. We have seen this all over Ca now.
 

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You may have noticed that a red light you are familiar with has gone from 2 min to 2.5 or in some cases 3 mins. We have seen this all over Ca now.
Getting a lot of intelligent intersections around here. The light timing changes based on the amount of traffic detected in each direction.
There is times where the light would normally turn red but no cross traffic is stopped so the light stays green.
I read an article about how screwy CARB actually is and can make decisions without oversight or any means to challenge their decisions.
 

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Getting a lot of intelligent intersections around here. The light timing changes based on the amount of traffic detected in each direction.
There is times where the light would normally turn red but no cross traffic is stopped so the light stays green.
I read an article about how screwy CARB actually is and can make decisions without oversight or any means to challenge their decisions.
Yep the agency's today,,,have no oversight and the career employee's believe they can "direct" as they see it.
Your point on those city's that have acquired the smart traffic system is fair. I saw a presentation in San Fran that had a learning module. It realy made some good decisions.
 

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Yep the agency's today,,,have no oversight and the career employee's believe they can "direct" as they see it.
Your point on those city's that have acquired the smart traffic system is fair. I saw a presentation in San Fran that had a learning module. It realy made some good decisions.
Yep the agency's today,,,have no oversight and the career employee's believe they can "direct" as they see it.
Your point on those city's that have acquired the smart traffic system is fair. I saw a presentation in San Fran that had a learning module. It realy made some good decisions.
Traffic activated lights have been around for years. Wires buried in the surface detect a vehicle then cycle the light. Busier streets stay green until a vehicle is detected on the cross street. I used to be a professional driving instructor teaching folks how to drive semis. I’d teach them how to read the lights to minimize braking and shifting.
 

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You may have noticed that a red light you are familiar with has gone from 2 min to 2.5 or in some cases 3 mins. We have seen this all over Ca now.

What is this "red light" you speak of?

Please note: I do not live in (and have not visited) Amsterdam.
 

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i hate it! when i get in the truck i start the engine and turn the auto shutoff off. wish i could disable it all together!
 

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Total ******** system forced upon us by the goverment .Wearing are motors out way be before its time. Just saying
 

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?So with E-torque, the starter motor(/alternator) spins up the engine with a serpentine belt? That all sounds shaky to me, that start/stop would seem like it would wear out the starter motor sooner than the old type of starter. Too much for my old simple-loving brain, although an extra 90#-ft of torque on my V6 at low rpms wouldn't be at all unappreciated. Maybe the E-torque folks with lots of miles on one can tell us all how it holds up...? :shakehead:
 

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?So with E-torque, the starter motor(/alternator) spins up the engine with a serpentine belt? That all sounds shaky to me, that start/stop would seem like it would wear out the starter motor sooner than the old type of starter.
The eTorque doesn't engage like an old school starter, it runs just like an alternator till the ECM "reverses the wiring" and make to it start the engine instead of charging the battery pack. Not much more risk of wearing out than a conventional alternator, which by the way you can turn into an electric motor.
As for using a belt drive, they have started diesel busses this way using air starters for years.
 
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