Weight confusion.

[loveracing1988]

Never bothered to look myself, but guy above said 5k.
Up here, that would be about 8k

I guess it went up for 2015, it used to be $600 or so.

 

[14hemiexpress]

I have played with it and the 3500 and 2500 are less than $1000 apart when I build them. I had planed on my next truck being a 2500, 6.4, 4.10 but the last couple months seeing how fast people are running out of payload I may just step it up to the 3500. I know the 3000lb payload will be hard to hit with the 2500 and gas engine but for the cost I think I would just make the jump. To OP I would just stick with the TT you have or get one that fits you truck it would be a pretty hard hit trading in so early.

 

[Andy578]

Never bothered to look myself, but guy above said 5k.
Up here, that would be about 8k

$5k was Canadian. it actually may have been less then that when i was comparing but i know it wasn't more then $5k difference at the time so i went with that. base models have a bigger gap but once you start adding options the price starts to even out

[edit] just played with the build tool again and a 2500 SLT CC 8ft bed with 4X4 and about half the options is coming out at $67,880. 3500 SLT with almost the same options except a few not available on the 2500 like the Aisin transmission and dual rear wheels is showing $69,060. for $1180 you get far more truck and a much higher resale value so it really wouldn't make sense to buy a 2500 just to save $1180

something interesting happens if you jump up the the Laramie completely loaded the 3500 actually becomes cheaper at $72,360 compared to the 2500 at $81,255. some of the gap is due to the 2500 having a few extra options not available with the 3500 like the sunroof and air suspension but once again the 3500 makes more sense and really only reason to go with the 2500 in this case is if you somehow can't live without those options

 

[loveracing1988]

$5k was Canadian. it actually may have been less then that when i was comparing but i know it wasn't more then $5k difference at the time so i went with that. base models have a bigger gap but once you start adding options the price starts to even out

[edit] just played with the build tool again and a 2500 SLT CC 8ft bed with 4X4 and about half the options is coming out at $67,880. 3500 SLT with almost the same options except a few not available on the 2500 like the Aisin transmission and dual rear wheels is showing $69,060. for $1180 you get far more truck and a much higher resale value so it really wouldn't make sense to buy a 2500 just to save $1180

I will take the ride quality of a 2500 over a 3500 anyway unless I need a drw. If they offer the Aisin transmission in the 2500 that would make it even better.

 

[Andy578]

I will take the ride quality of a 2500 over a 3500 anyway unless I need a drw. If they offer the Aisin transmission in the 2500 that would make it even better.

drove a friends 2003 3500 recently and really was surprised how it rides, sure it was a bit bumpy compared to my 1500 but not enough for it to be a deal breaker. of course not everyone is the same but personally i didn't find it uncomfortable aside from the fact my friend seriously needs a front end alignment

 

[Kenny kustom]

Meh.
I'll keep the TT and the 2500 for a couple years. Then see what the " latest and greatest" is!

 

[dundonrl]

Towing and payload are 2 completely different things. The towing capacity between the 2500 and 3500 are almost identical untill you move up to the DRW same engine transmission ect. The way you get 30,000lbs towing is the single cab DRW 2wd with the HO 6.7 with the asian, the 3500 with out the asian (and SRW) has a almost identical towing capacity. There is only 10hp and 50tq difference between the two.

I also have to add gear ratio makes a huge difference. According to Rams web page the 6.4l 2500 can tow 50lbs less than the 3500 DRW with the 6.4 same axle. The 2500 only has the 3.42 rear axle. The 6.7 2500 3.42 is 300lbs less than the 3500 with the same ratio.. Witch mad as well be identical.

well, look at the 2012 vs 2013.. same axles, drive train, frame etc.. a 20 hp more (same torque) with auto tranny and 50 ft lbs more torque with manual transmission, yet using 3.42 gears (all that is available on the 2013) you can almost tow 8000 lbs more with the 2013 vs 2012.. USING that, I pretty much don't agree with Ram on ANY of their tow ratings, since there's NO WAY going from 350 hp to 370 hp will increase your max towing from 9600 lbs to over 17,000...

 

[Andy578]

well, look at the 2012 vs 2013.. same axles, drive train, frame etc.. a 20 hp more (same torque) with auto tranny and 50 ft lbs more torque with manual transmission, yet using 3.42 gears (all that is available on the 2013) you can almost tow 8000 lbs more with the 2013 vs 2012.. USING that, I pretty much don't agree with Ram on ANY of their tow ratings, since there's NO WAY going from 350 hp to 370 hp will increase your max towing from 9600 lbs to over 17,000...

engine has very little to do with towing. brakes, suspension, axles, and frame are the biggest factors. on flat ground you can pull a heavy load with dam near anything but being able to stop that load is the challenge

 

[Kenny kustom]

engine has very little to do with towing. brakes, suspension, axles, and frame are the biggest factors. on flat ground you can pull a heavy load with dam near anything but being able to stop that load is the challenge

What was changed from 12-13 to make such a difference?

 

[14hemiexpress]

What was changed from 12-13 to make such a difference?

If I'm not mistaken they re did the frames in 13 suspension, and as a pure guess the brakes were probably upgraded. I bet loveracing knows.

 

[loveracing1988]

If I'm not mistaken they re did the frames in 13 suspension, and as a pure guess the brakes were probably upgraded. I bet loveracing knows.

As far as I know everything is the same from 12 to 13 for the 2500's. The 3500's got the upgraded frame and front disconnect in 2013 with the 2500's getting that upgrade the next year along with the coil spring rear suspension and the 3 link front vs the 5 link of old.

 

[14hemiexpress]

As far as I know everything is the same from 12 to 13 for the 2500's. The 3500's got the upgraded frame and front disconnect in 2013 with the 2500's getting that upgrade the next year along with the coil spring rear suspension and the 3 link front vs the 5 link of old.

I just read 3 reviews of the updated 2013 and they all spoke about the new beefed up frames, and upgraded axles and a redesigned cooling system.

 

[loveracing1988]

i just read 3 reviews of the updated 2013 and they all spoke about the new beefed up frames, and upgraded axles and a redesigned cooling system.

 

[14hemiexpress]

 

[loveracing1988]

well, look at the 2012 vs 2013.. Same axles, drive train, frame etc.. A 20 hp more (same torque) with auto tranny and 50 ft lbs more torque with manual transmission, yet using 3.42 gears (all that is available on the 2013) you can almost tow 8000 lbs more with the 2013 vs 2012.. Using that, i pretty much don't agree with ram on any of their tow ratings, since there's no way going from 350 hp to 370 hp will increase your max towing from 9600 lbs to over 17,000...

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There is only a 2000 pound difference between the two. I don't know what the change was but the GVWR went up to 10000 pounds, that would explain the increased towing capacity.

 

[14hemiexpress]

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There is only a 2000 pound difference between the two. I don't know what the change was but the GVWR went up to 10000 pounds, that would explain the increased towing capacity.

I see the 2000lbs difference in the max towing but the 2012 got 4.10 with the 6.7. The 2013 only has the 3.42 and with the 3.42 on the 12 the max towing is only 10,000 and the 3.42 on the 13 is almost 18,000. It just has me curious

 

[loveracing1988]

I see the 2000lbs difference in the max towing but the 2012 got 4.10 with the 6.7. The 2013 only has the 3.42 and with the 3.42 on the 12 the max towing is only 10,000 and the 3.42 on the 13 is almost 18,000. It just has me curious

Magic towing dust.

 

[regularcab2500]

Still no explanations for difference in 14 vs 15 tow capacity though? It might just be a typo but im pretty sure ram uses the newest standards to rate towing which should mean they have the most legitimate ratings on the market

 

[regularcab2500]

I meant to post this instead of the bottom picture...

 

[loveracing1988]

Still no explanations for difference in 14 vs 15 tow capacity though? It might just be a typo but im pretty sure ram uses the newest standards to rate towing which should mean they have the most legitimate ratings on the market

It is a typo. No 6.4 is rated to tow 17000 pounds. Also you cannot get 3.73 gears with the Cummins in the 2500.