Aircondition problems

[Juan G]

Hi!

Need some serious help on my Ram 1500 sport 2016. My aircon stopped blowing cold air last month, since i am so lazy enough to go to the shop, i decided to youtube it. Found about stuffs in refilling Freon. Watches a whole video of it with ram truck and filling with AC pro.

So i went to the store bought one of this AC pro, filled it and wabaamm still not working.

Decided to just bring it to the dealership, and when they checked it they said it was the wrong freon and unfortunately it is in the system now, and they cannot fix it. What should i do, or what is the best solution to solve this nightmare?

Thanks!

 

[ExpressRules]

What Freon did you use??? More details would help.

 

[Rado]

Juan, As mentioned what Freon did you use ? I would go to another Auto AC Co. I believe they can pump the unit down and flush it, then recharge with proper Freon ! Not sure of damage wrong Freon would cause ! Please keep us updated !

 

[crash68]

There isn't a problem with getting the wrong refrigerant out of a system..."leaks" happen all the time. If the "freon" he added to the system also had oil with it, now that is a problem. The 1234yf refrigerant the truck uses is not compatible with oil that 134a refrigerant uses.
I'd like to know how it was even possible to add the refrigerant, the access port fittings for 1234yf refrigerant are different from 134a

 

[Tach_tech]

How did you even get a R134a fitting onto the 1234yf ports. They’re not compatible. If you actually did manage to get it in there, you’re gonna have a hard time finding a shop that will touch it now. They’re not going to risk damaging their machines if they suspect it’s the wrong refrigerant.

 

[Juan G]

Sorry, it was an A/C on the Go. Says “12A Refrigerant w/ dye”. It was handed to me by the guy that I asked for an AC Pro in Canadian tire.

Bottle says “
Synthetic 12A replaces R-134a refrigerant lost refrigerant and oit to your A/C system.

Thanks

 

[Juan G]

Crash68/tach_tech
bullseye!

So true, fittings is not compatible but i just kept squeezing the can and maybe-maybe the pressure from the tank?
I told the shop too that I tried and it didn’t fit so i said that none went through.
But they did the tests and said some of it dis went through.
Now they said they cant fix it cause they don't have the tools to flush and fix it.

 

[madtrucker2016]

well you better go to junk yard and throw money at them to take all the A/C stuff off the junkyard truck. Because your gona spend big big bucks for OEM parts

 

[atom13]

You should find the real problem. It may not be a leak. I don't think you introduce that much into the system especially with the wrong connector. Even if you did it would be a very small amount of contamination. Hvac machines handles all different kinds of refrigerant. The refrigerant gets return to a recycler and the machines can be cleaned for the next service.

The reason I think no one wants to touch it is because as a tech or owner of a service company, we do not like to fix things that have been molested by untrained hands. It often makes troubleshooting more difficult and time consuming. I think it's time to pay competent shop. Expect to pay more than normal prices because they have to fix what you did and then find and fix the real problem.

 

[Tach_tech]

HVAC machines don’t do multiple refrigerants. There is one machine per type. You don’t have the same machine doing R134a and R1234yf.

OP likely has the accumulator plug leaking, extremely common.

 

[crash68]

The reason I think no one wants to touch it is because as a tech or owner of a service company, we do not like to fix things that have been molested by untrained hands.

If the dealer's machine determined that the refrigerant is contaminated, that's the big reason why they don't want to touch it. The dealer will have to pay to have all of that refrigerant once recovered along whatever else refrigerant is in the machine and cylinder has to be destroyed(it's not cheap either). Then there is the refrigerant oil issue, the oil will have to be cleaned out of shops recovery machine. Same goes for the truck as the oil for 134a isn't compatible with 1234yf, it can cause running issues.
If a service company doesn't want to fix something because it was "molested by untrained hands", it's either a lousy company/service tech or they know the customer is not going to like the expensive repair bill to do it right way.

 

[atom13]

If the dealer's machine determined that the refrigerant is contaminated, that's the big reason why they don't want to touch it. The dealer will have to pay to have all of that refrigerant once recovered along whatever else refrigerant is in the machine and cylinder has to be destroyed(it's not cheap either). Then there is the refrigerant oil issue, the oil will have to be cleaned out of shops recovery machine. Same goes for the truck as the oil for 134a isn't compatible with 1234yf, it can cause running issues.
If a service company doesn't want to fix something because it was "molested by untrained hands", it's either a lousy company/service tech or they know the customer is not going to like the expensive repair bill to do it right way.

I’m not familiar with auto hvac business. But I am familiar with residential and commercial side. Old refrigerants are returned for recycling for a fee. This is the reason an indy shop would be better to handle this type of work. Dealers will not waste their time doing this unless they know exact book times for estimates.

I was alluding to the customer not willing to pay so why waste your time.