Battery life only 2 years old

[blackbetty14]

I hope this thread doesn't go postal.
Got one member with a antique Chevy Nova that doesn't have a computer knowing it's lights are on
or a door open or if the entire exhaust system has fallen off!...gets ten years out of each battery.
Got another member who has multiple computers, cameras and even a radio that keeps track of daylight savings time and electronic radio presets, the current outdoor temperature and whether his spouse us ovulating.

Don't want to be a troll here.

OP said he ran his battery flat.

Pay $180,000 get a Tesla and talk batteries.

It's a pickup truck. Treat the battery with respect.
Don't diss the designers or battery suppliers.

If OP pulled the IOD fuse out that vehicle truck haulers use in the main computer that shuts Down the battery draw in the first place this would be a non issue.
Said he had items running on top of normal truck preservation.

Other peeps say batteries are s..t
Get real.
It's a stupid battery. Give it respect.

The thread was just getting a consensus of the battery life of the OEM factory batteries. I know what I did and I know what damage I could have caused. Not throwing blame at anything all I did was test my battery. It’s good to know what others are getting as I can judge that I’m going to have to throw a $200 battery at this truck in prob a year or less. Just judging the quality of factory and what others have put in to make a more informed decision on my future purchase.

The only item I mistakenly forgot to turn off was a motion detection dash cam which is pulling super low current and didn’t know it could drain a battery in 5 days given that it’s only on with motion but I still left it on so it’s my fault.

Also your comment about older cars is irrelevant and not accurate. Older cars in good working order don’t have anywhere near the battery drain of a newer car, depending on upgrades there is no memory for things like radios or update systems and alarms etc... sometimes newer isn’t better. Also ever think about how automotive batteries haven’t evolved much since forever but the drain/usage of them continues to increase? Sure we got AGM and dry cells but Tesla’s as you say are rolling around with lithium the size of twin mattresses and OEM is still rocking acid flooded across the board.

Idk why your talking about Tesla’s... trolling you are... I have spoken.

 

[blackbetty14]

BTW way , when I was still buying lots of batterys for all the machinery, interstate, seemed as good as any, In Canada

BTW way , when I was still buying lots of batterys for all the machinery, interstate, seemed as good as any, In Canada

I used to like interstate, now they are harder to find. My experience had been positive with them and I agree.

 

[blackbetty14]

If one battery is old and one new, the old one will drag the new one down, so that is a poor idea, Right now we are at -27c, so you find out if your battery's are good, But my 14 is still on original battery.
I have had battery that have run 20 yrs But they have never been dead, and f getting down, a trickle charger, not a 50 amp wack, stone dead battery, it could blow it up, seen that one time, not good.

haha in my defense I did not hit it with 50amps right away. I have a smart charger which has a recovery mode and has a programmed charging mode which I’m assuming varies charging amps as it verifies voltage (no idea). After the recovery I tried 8amp and 15amp straight charging for 10min or so. Verified battery voltage and tried to crank and it could almost turn over, that’s when I pulled out my other charger and hit it with 50amps to get it to crank, then I ran the truck idle for a bit and then drove to work about 20min away. If I had a dead short or killed a few plates I would have known before hitting it with the 50amps.

 

[OCDTech]

I used to like interstate, now they are harder to find. My experience had been positive with them and I agree.

We have them, they are claimed one of the best around here.

 

[blackbetty14]

We have them, they are claimed one of the best around here.

Yea, you want to deliver one to CT? lol. Big box stores, Advance, AutoZone, Napa, Costco, BJs don't carry interstate brand. I'm also new to this area so I'm not totally sure yet but even Homedepot doesn't have them. I will keep searching for a place that sells interstate but more than likely this truck will be getting some kind of AGM at minimum. I was able to find one Lithium car battery but its like $699 or more. I won't touch optima anymore since they moved production out of the USA and quality dropped. I know johnson controls is one of the top battery manufactures which is why I tend to stick to the gold series from advance of auto zone bc they are made by johnson controls.

 

[gofishn]

Original battery going on year 6, kinda playing with the limit but she fires right up in 0 degree weather.

These 180 Amp alternators really extended OEM life.

Must be young, fit or cheap.

I am far to Fat, Old and Lazy to chance it.
I am Cheap but my penny pinching knows some limits.
Outside, O Dark Thirty, middle of No Where, -30 Windchills ..... Screw that.


Pssst, don;t let my truck get below 1/2 tankwhen temps drop below freezing either. got my Heavy DUty RR Bibs and coat,i n the truck, Cleats with ice Spikes, gloves ot the yin yang, stand outside all day andnight toasty warm, in teh back seat but still......Screw that. Fill her up.

 

[Tim Garceau]

D. All of the above

I run it until the last vapor left 0 DTE, only had it shut off once a few blocks from the station. Walk of shame to borrow a can and get a gallon in 20 degrees without a jacket, lesson learned on chancing the reserve.

 

[OCDTech]

Yea, you want to deliver one to CT? lol. Big box stores, Advance, AutoZone, Napa, Costco, BJs don't carry interstate brand. I'm also new to this area so I'm not totally sure yet but even Homedepot doesn't have them. I will keep searching for a place that sells interstate but more than likely this truck will be getting some kind of AGM at minimum. I was able to find one Lithium car battery but its like $699 or more. I won't touch optima anymore since they moved production out of the USA and quality dropped. I know johnson controls is one of the top battery manufactures which is why I tend to stick to the gold series from advance of auto zone bc they are made by johnson controls.

Oh i wan't trying to rub it in, LOL Just was saying i knew the brand, and it may only be because it a Battery specific store around here. None of the stores you mention have it i don't believe.

 

[CYSTemrebel]

My OEM battery lasted 8 years up here in Canuckistan. It was my fault even then when it failed.

 

[blackbetty14]

I’m playing with dual power sport lithium batteries at the moment. Going to try to run them in my summer car and see how they work out. 380CCA each and 21 Ah each, so 760CCA and 42Ah is more than the OEM ram battery I believe. Cheap little ******** too at $54 each. So $150 all in including the adapters. So about the same price as a decent gold lead acid battery around here but $50
Cheaper than an AGM. Lithium should last min 5years but usually around 10 if taken care of.

 

[Wild one]

I’m playing with dual power sport lithium batteries at the moment. Going to try to run them in my summer car and see how they work out. 380CCA each and 21 Ah each, so 760CCA and 42Ah is more than the OEM ram battery I believe. Cheap little ******** too at $54 each. So $150 all in including the adapters. So about the same price as a decent gold lead acid battery around here but $50
Cheaper than an AGM. Lithium should last min 5years but usually around 10 if taken care of.

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Plumbed in parrallel will double up the CC amps,but won't double your amp hours,you'll still only have 21AH's

 

[blackbetty14]

Plumbed in parrallel will double up the CC amps,but won't double your amp hours,you'll still only have 21AH's

you sure about that?

 

[blackbetty14]

Pretty sure in parallel doubles amps and capacity but voltage stays the same. In series the voltage is doubled but the amp hours remains the same.

 

[Wild one]

Pretty sure in parallel doubles amps and capacity but voltage stays the same. In series the voltage is doubled but the amp hours remains the same.

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I stand corrected then.

 

[blackbetty14]

I stand corrected then.

It’s all good. It gets confusing after a while especially adding 4 + batteries

 

[Wild one]

It’s all good. It gets confusing after a while especially adding 4 + batteries

Here's the rest of the article.

https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/battery-articles/battery-bank-tutorial.html

 

[Wild one]

It’s all good. It gets confusing after a while especially adding 4 + batteries

Peukerts Law might interest you. The amp hours only double if the load stays the same,if you double the amp draw load the amp hours do decrease.So the idea of doubling up your batteries to increase amp hours works as long as you don't double the load at the same time.If the starter draws more then the first batteries amp hour capacity,then you won't have double the amp hours as you're past the first batteries capacity.Whether one of your batteries will start the vehicle at 32F is questionable,and if it won't then you won't have double the amp hours by hooking another identical battery into the circuit in parrallel. The scenario observed here is assuming one battery will supply 380CCA at 21AH and will start the vehicle,but if the load is more then that battery can handle (ie:starter clicks,or doesn't turn the engine over fast enough to start) throwing another identical battery into the mix will not double the amp hours to 42. The case your looking at assumes one battery is adequate,but i'm not sure one 380CCA battery will start the average vehicle at 32F.

http://all-about-lead-acid-batterie...amentals/peukerts-law-and-exponent-explained/

 

[crackerjack1957]

My battery is going on 7 years old so I replaced even though it still worked.
Bought AC/Delco from a friend for his price $140 because this is the only brand he sells
AC/Delco was more reliable than Interstate his previous battery sales.

Amazon saying it will not fit my truck but it is identical in size & shape as original.
https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-94RAGM-Professional-Automotive-Battery/dp/B006N91C2M

 

[blackbetty14]

My battery is going on 7 years old so I replaced even though it still worked.
Bought AC/Delco from a friend for his price $140 because this is the only brand he sells
AC/Delco was more reliable than Interstate his previous battery sales.

Amazon saying it will not fit my truck but it is identical in size & shape as original.
https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-94RAGM-Professional-Automotive-Battery/dp/B006N91C2M

damn $230, prob cheaper to get one at autozone and wait till they have a 20% off or something. Since you got it for $140 that’s a good deal.

 

[blackbetty14]

Peukerts Law might interest you. The amp hours only double if the load stays the same,if you double the amp draw load the amp hours do decrease.So the idea of doubling up your batteries to increase amp hours works as long as you don't double the load at the same time.If the starter draws more then the first batteries amp hour capacity,then you won't have double the amp hours as you're past the first batteries capacity.Whether one of your batteries will start the vehicle at 32F is questionable,and if it won't then you won't have double the amp hours by hooking another identical battery into the circuit in parrallel. The scenario observed here is assuming one battery will supply 380CCA at 21AH and will start the vehicle,but if the load is more then that battery can handle (ie:starter clicks,or doesn't turn the engine over fast enough to start) throwing another identical battery into the mix will not double the amp hours to 42. The case your looking at assumes one battery is adequate,but i'm not sure one 380CCA battery will start the average vehicle at 32F.

http://all-about-lead-acid-batterie...amentals/peukerts-law-and-exponent-explained/

We will see! Some quick calculations show starter amp pull during full Chooch to be about 200amps give or take. This is with a modern gear reduction mini starter found on stock style LS motors which I buy new and doesn’t get a lot of cranks as it’s a summer car only. The Ah is less important to me as the car will run off the alternator for the most part. It sits for longer periods (a week easily) but I have a battery quick cutoff so when I park it for it to sit I kill the battery pretty quickly so there is no drain. Car doesn’t have AC and besides a decent sound system it just has fuel, fans and basic electronics to power but again that is with the car running. Worst case is I have some sweet batteries for my lawn tractor lol.