both of those are very soft, studless, lots of flexible sipes. good or great on pure ice but not nearly "all weather/terrain" for me as a winter tire should be up here in the great white north. conditions can be so changing you can go from freezing rain to snow caked on top of a 1/4 inch of ice back to pure black ice in a matter of minutes. i dont have time to chuck around with substandard winter tires. for me its nokian tires or stay home.
im pretty sure that where you live you have great white north conditions so you will be able to appreciate the value of having good winter tires!