How offroad worthy is the RAM 1500?

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I'd imagine the auto box works OK for a fair number of drivers - again comes down to how you define "real" off road. Like last summer I spent some time touring the hills around Rainbow, UT and I was really glad to have 4wd and ground clearance and all terrain tires, it wouldn't have been the right place to take a CUV on all season tires. But I'm sure the auto transfer case would have been fine.
 

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Well. You’re out of luck than. The auto version sucks for real off-roading. It can overheat and have problems with traction because it doesn’t fully lock into 4wd fully.
So if you have it set in 4WD High instead of Auto it's not the same as setting the other t-case in 4WD High?
 

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So if you have it set in 4WD High instead of Auto it's not the same as setting the other t-case in 4WD High?

No Sir... The BW 44-45 is better off road due to the true locking feature but it's not as smooth or user friendly. This is why the higher trims come with the auto feature.... The majority of people prefer comfort and ease of use. Those in the know seek out the Rebel, Outdoorsman, or Tradesman trim.
 

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So if you have it set in 4WD High instead of Auto it's not the same as setting the other t-case in 4WD High?
Unfortunately no. 4 high locks the transfer case into 4wd and locks the front diff in but does not lock the output of the transfer case in. It has a slip clutch in it that has to lock up. Similar to a clutch lsd in the rear end. If it sees enough slip it’ll engage.
 
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Well, I sold my Rubicon and went to the RAM Sport. I really don't hardcore of road anymore. I don't need to climb boulders and through deep mud anymore. I am however, interested in this switch to bypass the auto feature as log as it wont cause issues.
 

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If you install the switch that was mentioned the 44-44 transfer case works like a 44-45 part time case. . This transfer case has been used in other trucks without an issue also in the 3rd gen Rams which worked fine. FCA as changed the pressure on the clutch that is involved in the output to the front driveshaft. With the switch installed that puts the pressure back where it don't slip then it works as good as the 44-45 and still have the auto setting if you flip the switch back off. Its much cheaper than a new case and parts to swap the whole case. Easy fix then you "can " have a nice Sport and regular 4wd like in the Express. It take roughly 15 minutes to plug in this mod and mount the switch . Do a little searching on the forum and it will turn up . I will. see if I can find it again .

EDIT :anyone-happy-with-borg-warner-44-44-auto-4wd.94636 Its near the later half of the thread ... Look for Brandon-w

Saved ya some more time. page-27

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Well, I sold my Rubicon and went to the RAM Sport. I really don't hardcore of road anymore. I don't need to climb boulders and through deep mud anymore. I am however, interested in this switch to bypass the auto feature as log as it wont cause issues.


With your truck as is, your limited to fire roads.
 

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That seems like it would be a good topic for one of those truck focused youtube channels that's got the luxury of a bit of budget, go see if they can evaluate and pinpoint the bottom line on the 44-44 since opinions swing wildly on how good or bad it is. I can't comment on it as I have a Tradesman.
 

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I'm fairly new to this forum, and am wondering how off-road worthy the RAM 1500 in my configuration is. I have a 14 Sport quad cab, 4WD with the auto 4wd, 3.92 rear gearing with anti slip rear-end. As far as wheel base goes, I know the limitations of that, but wondering what people actually do with their RAM 1500's off road.

Just sitting around bored, and anxiously waiting for the ability to get back into the outdoors.

Cheers
It depends on what you're going to do. i know that recently (few months ago) we had a dude swearing by his auto lock feature and how tight it was locking for him while in 4auto. That sure contradicted a few hundred statements and videos we have around from trucks with the 44-44 :), but in his defense his truck i think was a Classic 19 or 20 i can't remember, so maybe FCA have learned a thing about the 44-44 and how the way they're programming it? Don't know.
In any case we have a member that sells a device that can fix that up. If i had 44-44 tcase that will be my 1st mod no questions asked. Trust me i've seeing that system in action and it sucks when you're expecting the wheels to move and they won't move, won't even spin or only one will spin. never seen anything quite like it except for the little Jeep Renegade.

Regarding stock capability. you can drive in 4x4 everywhere your stock front bumper will allow you to go. stock tires do suck for a lot of conditons and the truck is not advertised as someting designed for adventure. it's just another 4x4 truck on the road but we share the same traction control with Jeeps (Brake locking differentential, not a replacement for a locker just in case) and combined with the factory LSD, the thing can go places and surprise a lot of people if you're not affraid and know to drive offroad.

It's a little wide for most rocky trails, though here in the Socal desert we don't have much issues with vehicle sizes and trail space, do you see the mammoth in the right corner here ?, the little silver whale is on the left :)
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1500's are not rock crawlers, but a little 2" lift with 315's and even on stock bumpers you can go places with little rocks here and there
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Easier for Goliath of course, you think 1500s are too what for the trail ? wide ? big ? what ?
hahahahahaha
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Don't be affraid the truck can go places, not exactly stock though, 2.5" lift on 315's, couple of Mopar skids and rock sliders
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Going to the mall here cause it's just an Express 1500
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Of course you need 6" of lift to offroad 37's right ? Lol
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Easy trail for a Jeep
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same thing , easier to navigate with 37's, the Jeep in 37's and my RAM is on 37's. I don't think a stock 1500 with stock tires will make it here. There is no clearance with the factory bumper and ***** sidewall tires will work against you. That is the worst thing i see from a stock RAM 4x4 the front bumper clearance and 20" tires with short sidewalls that will deflate if you show them a little rock. stock GY's are not offroad tires and everything in that line of tires meant more for highway with p rated sidewalls are garbage for anything more than a simple fire road. The factory wheels will work but you want at least some 35's given our big wheelbase with strong LT sidewalls for extra protection if you're doing more aggressive off-road. Not everybody will need 35's you can still have 33s if you have a work truck but ditch the ***** sidewalls if your truck is in the field often. A toothpick will give you a flat with P rated tires.
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Also remember sometimes you can't go offroading without expecting some damage so don't be affraid of some pin stripping or metal contact or bumper damage. etc. our door panel paint is not that ***** so all this goes mostly away after a wash, prob more if you use waxes and the like. i'm not into that for my trucks or Jeeps, water and soap, then more dust and dirt on top on weekends. lol

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it really depends on what you want to do and how aggresive you want to go, sometimes you can't make that u turn or backup so the only way is forward. We don't have many armor mods and with IFS rock crawling is not exactly this truck forte, they fair a lot better in the open fields with sand,dirt, some mud, snow etc and with the right suspension you can do the same with a lot more speed. The stock LCA's are damn rock solid, mate that with aftermarket HD UCA's and Performance shocks and your front/rear can take some abuse, is not a dune jumper without a proper long travel setup though so thread lightly without it.

All in all, a little lift with real man sidewall tires and some guevos , plus the TC fix in the 44-44, or just a straight 44-45 with 3.92's (though not exactly needed) and this trucks can go many places, add some good shocks and i guarantee you the grin in your face will a be poem for a long time.

Have fun.
 
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Fairly basic demostration of our BLD system while in 4lo, no need to abuse the truck to get it to grab traction and give it gas to overcome the lack of lockers. Steady easy thottle when your wheels go on the air and the system does the rest, no buttons to push.



 

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Thank you ram1500rsm.
I really enjoy your posts with pics. I don't do the wild off road stuff like you but it's sure nice to know and see the capabilities of our trucks. I guess one could say I live vicariously through you.
 

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I'm fairly new to this forum, and am wondering how off-road worthy the RAM 1500 in my configuration is. I have a 14 Sport quad cab, 4WD with the auto 4wd, 3.92 rear gearing with anti slip rear-end. As far as wheel base goes, I know the limitations of that, but wondering what people actually do with their RAM 1500's off road.

Just sitting around bored, and anxiously waiting for the ability to get back into the outdoors.

Cheers

Surprisingly well and capable.
My old 2005 1500 quad SLT went off road quite q few times.
As a reference point I'll say that it made the run to Peacock Flats several times (you can google it, Peacock Flats on Oahu, or Kuaokala Forest Oahu). Fully loaded with camping gear, too.

The video below is all about tacos, not Rams, but it's whatever i googled real quick and you'll see the terrain as a reference point for our discussion, and my stock 05 am 1500 made it past all that in dry weather:





Of course lets be serious, it did NOT go all the side trails where genuine 4 inch lifted jeeps - or 6-inch lifted Tacos - went, but it did go on some tough side-trails more than just the main forestry road. so, middle-of-the-road (pun!) capable.

It is not a jeep, but it is more than a car.

In dry weather, it did the Peacock Flats runs with stock factory tires (in later years I did put more aggressive tires, and it did make a big difference) and most of the time i could keep it in 2WD. In wet weather....well that's not fair to blame any vehicle for not making Peacock Flats in the wet.

The ground clearance (depending on your trim and year model) is as good as a stock jeep or tacoma; obviously the wheelbase is a different argument but we all knew that when we decided to buy a pickup and not a jeep.

With aggressive tires and good driving you will pass things that a novice in a jeep with factory stock tires will get stuck in. But a souped up jeep with skilled driving you will not keep up with.

But to answer your question, it is very, very capable. For its wheelbase, if you stay within the geometry and math of that wheelbase, you will be as capable as any other consumer grade private vehicle out there.

I now have a $Fifty-freaking-K Laramie so it won't see anything like the pics and vids people have been posting - at least not for a few years and until the leather is torn and some quarterpanel dinged up first. No siree, these trucks are too expensive nowadays to take into the bush.
 
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I'm fairly new to this forum, and am wondering how off-road worthy the RAM 1500 in my configuration is. I have a 14 Sport quad cab, 4WD with the auto 4wd, 3.92 rear gearing with anti slip rear-end. As far as wheel base goes, I know the limitations of that, but wondering what people actually do with their RAM 1500's off road.

Just sitting around bored, and anxiously waiting for the ability to get back into the outdoors.

Cheers

I have a similar set up, crew cab Laramie with 3.92 and limited slip. Spent much of the last two summers exploring the Washington Back Country Discovery Route. Only changed I made was going to Toyo AT 2 tires, all else stock. Truck does fantastic on the eastern slopes of the Cascades. My only issue was I cut one of the stock Goodyear’s up on Umtanum ridge.

There are lots of fun places to explore in Washington with your truck, toss a few tools in the back just in case and have some fun!

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They are crap.
I come from Cherokees where $500 in mods will get a you a very worthy rig.

I broke my front bumper on my RAM the first time I went rabbit hunting.
I have come to terms that my truck is not for off roading.
I did do a front level to get some clearance..but not going to invest too much more.
 

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They are crap.
I come from Cherokees where $500 in mods will get a you a very worthy rig.

I broke my front bumper on my RAM the first time I went rabbit hunting.
I have come to terms that my truck is not for off roading.
I did do a front level to get some clearance..but not going to invest too much more.
My in-laws have a Trail Rated Cherokee and I wouldn't take it where I've taken my truck....
Even a Grand Cherokee, they don't have a lot of ground clearance so if you wrecked your front bumper on a leveled Ram I doubt the Cherokee would have suffered any less damage. Plus, AWD vs locking 4x4, I'll take the 4x4 every time.

Unless you're doing major trails with rocks and deep pits/water crossings it's mostly driver skill and tire choice that will make or break you.
 

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I see you are running Maxx swaybar end links, I am not trying to hijack this post, but would be interested in what you think of them!



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