How To Add Heated/Ventelated seats and Heated Wheel to Express/Tradesman

[69mach1]

This thread just keeps getting better and better I'll be curious how it comes out on my 2013 2500 6.7 (manual seats) with 2015 Leather/MEM/Heat/cool/rear heated seats

 

[cptwing]

Ok just so you know I'm not crazy, I went out in the 28 degrees weather dressed like I'm in California and took this pic lol Brrrrrrrrrr

Which material choice gives you the best result?

 

[Ricks Ram]

Not sure why you have that setting and we don't. Possibly because our trucks are 13 and 14 model years and your truck is a 16.

 

[00R/T]

Not sure why you have that setting and we don't. Possibly because our trucks are 13 and 14 model years and your truck is a 16.

Yep. Probably something they added later. It might explain the different p/n's for the modules in the later years, too. They may have more parameters that they're looking for.

 

[cptwing]

Yep. Probably something they added later. It might explain the different p/n's for the modules in the later years, too. They may have more parameters that they're looking for.

So possibly a module upgrade would give you those settings? Deereguy what year was your donor truck again / 2016?

 

[DeereGuy]

Which material choice gives you the best result?

I didn't test them all. I set it to perforated leather as that is what the seats have and it made a big difference on how fast they get warm and how warm they feel. I actually turned them off driving home as they felt pretty warm. I had used them previously this week and they never really felt that hot.

 

[DeereGuy]

So possibly a module upgrade would give you those settings? Deereguy what year was your donor truck again / 2016?

Yeah 2016.

 

[Ricks Ram]

I'm curious to see if yours has that parameter,Rick. I know for a fact that mine doesn't.

Did you turn on any of the options in ECU 5? I noticed yesterday when I was looking that heated seats and/or wheel were turned on in there (I don't remember if it had both or just one) even though I don't remember doing it and didn't put it in my notes. It's possible that it is the reason why I have the comfort options in my RA4 and you don't, so I would enable any features that are in there that you have installed. I can't see how that would hurt.

It's funny my Heated seats and wheel turn on automatically if it's 40° or less but I have no setting for it on my screen. I will go back in and check to see if it's set.

 

[00R/T]

So possibly a module upgrade would give you those settings? Deereguy what year was your donor truck again / 2016?

The setting is in the BCM, so we're SOL unless there's a software update for the BCM that adds it. I doubt that's the case unless there is also an update to the CSWM so it knows to use it.

 

[DeereGuy]

It's funny my Heated seats and wheel turn on automatically if it's 40° or less but I have no setting for it on my screen. I will go back in and check to see if it's set.

Mines the same right now. I don't have any settings on my screen for the seats that I have found yet but the drivers seat heater has been coming on automatically and with remote start.

 

[WilliamS]

So like mine you installed and heat o my no cooled, the you used the AE tool now they work as they should. That's good news.

Groveland is about 3 hours north, might call them to see if they offer any services, or have any shops in my area.

And are we certain this can not be activated with the chrysler tool? Starscan I think they call it? I wonder if the Matco tablet would do it. Few of my service guys have those.

 

[WilliamS]

I didn't test them all. I set it to perforated leather as that is what the seats have and it made a big difference on how fast they get warm and how warm they feel. I actually turned them off driving home as they felt pretty warm. I had used them previously this week and they never really felt that hot.

I wonder if it uses the fans because it would know they were there on perforated leather where as the solid would not have them for the cooled part?

 

[Ricks Ram]

I wonder if it uses the fans because it would know they were there on perforated leather where as the solid would not have them for the cooled part?

The fans actually draw air through the seats instead of blowing it out. It's the air circulating around you that cools the seats. There is one fan in the bottom seat cushion and one in the back seat cushion.

 

[DeereGuy]

So like mine you installed and heat o my no cooled, the you used the AE tool now they work as they should. That's good news.

Groveland is about 3 hours north, might call them to see if they offer any services, or have any shops in my area.

And are we certain this can not be activated with the chrysler tool? Starscan I think they call it? I wonder if the Matco tablet would do it. Few of my service guys have those.

I don't know. I think the Chrysler tool is wiTech. I was reading through technical CSWM documents on tech authority last night and it said that if the CSWM had to be replaced that the heated steering wheel would have to be manually reprogrammed using wiTech. So I don't know what all wiTech can do...

 

[WilliamS]

I'm going to hit a few shop guys up tomorrow. If we can find an affordable route this is an easy mod for almost all ram owners. 450 to shell out for the programmer and software is a huge added expense. I'm trying to justify what else I would ever need it for.

Does the higher end rams have tilt when I reverse mitrors. That might be my tipping point for it.

 

[cptwing]

I'm going to hit a few shop guys up tomorrow. If we can find an affordable route this is an easy mod for almost all ram owners. 450 to shell out for the programmer and software is a huge added expense. I'm trying to justify what else I would ever need it for.

Does the higher end rams have tilt when I reverse mitrors. That might be my tipping point for it.

If you ever had to bring your truck into the dealership odds are those braindead ****heads would screw up everything by reflashing the BCM to your current build sheet. Then when nothing worked they would give you the Alfred E Newman look. The cost of this thing is less than I paid those idiots to not be able to figure out how to turn on my 'auto dimming mirror and CD player.

 

[DeereGuy]

I'm going to hit a few shop guys up tomorrow. If we can find an affordable route this is an easy mod for almost all ram owners. 450 to shell out for the programmer and software is a huge added expense. I'm trying to justify what else I would ever need it for.

Does the higher end rams have tilt when I reverse mitrors. That might be my tipping point for it.

Well the mod for you was pretty easy as you had all of the wiring. I've got at least 16 hours into creating harnesses, running wires, terminating connector ends, etc. If you are coming from a truck that does not have the wiring, it's really not a simple mod. Just my 2 cents..


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[WilliamS]

Well the mod for you was pretty easy as you had all of the wiring. I've got at least 16 hours into creating harnesses, running wires, terminating connector ends, etc. If you are coming from a truck that does not have the wiring, it's really not a simple mod. Just my 2 cents..


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No lack of appreciation to the work some of you guys had to put in. I thought your truck was an slt/bighorn so you plugged and went. I've been on the other end where I've had to hand lay a full car harness when I added parts to my bmw and when I put an ls1 into an s10. So again please I mean no disrespect to the pioneers to the guys who started this. I made an assumption and was wrong on your truck. I apologize if I made it sound like I was talking anyone down in terms of work.

That not being the case sends another wrench into it for me as now were assuming it would be the same as my truck doesn't have the bcm telling the seats to turn on.

When you got it all setup, you had heated from the panel but no cooled correct. Then you added the. To the radio using the AE tool and they would fault to off indicating it didn't k ow what to do.

The body co troll module is where you found the climate controlled seats as well the fabric type. You have a 2014 2500 correct?

Now I have to rule out a few more uncommon denominator before I begin harassing my techs and our local high-end shop. I think they have the chrysler tool but which one I'm unaware. We send all our high end cars to them and the nail it first try everyone which leads me to believe they have the right scan tools.

Just want to rule it all out, can you pm me your vin as well the donor vin?

If I buy the tool I'll make aloaner program to help pay for it but also get the other guys up to speed and turn on the modules then ship the hardware back to me. I may buy it tomorrow depending on this final info.

 

[cptwing]

Adding Heated/Ventelated seats and Heated Wheel to Express/Tradesman

A loaner program for the AE? Seems a bit impractical except on a local basis. You do realize that it runs off your laptop, this would mean loaning and or shipping your laptop as well as the tool. I would be willing to help someone out close by, but not loaning them my laptop and tool but meeting them as RT so graciously offered me.



FYI: If you have Fiat techs in your area that can do this, then you are blessed, my experience with them is the lack the grey matter to screw in a light bulb.

 

[DeereGuy]

A loaner program for the AE? Seems a bit impractical except on a local basis. You do realize that it runs off your laptop, this would mean loaning and or shipping your laptop as well as the tool. I would be willing to help someone out close by, but not loaning them my laptop and tool but meeting them as RT so graciously offered me.



FYI: If you have Fiat techs in your area that can do this, then you are blessed, my experience with them is the lack the grey matter to screw in a light bulb.

I actually installed mine on a separate laptop that I had laying around so I guess I could technically pack it up and ship it to someone else which I won't get into that business. Besides the fact it's more about liability to me. It would be VERY easy to screw something up in one of your modules by changing a setting. I can just see shipping it to someone, they make some change that they shouldn't of, and then come back to you that the the software didn't work and now their truck is screwed up. Sorry I don't want to be in that position. Even if you send a liability waiver with it, still not worth the hassle. I'll help people out locally on an as requested basis at my discretion.

What I think would be a great option for WilliamS is for the OBDGenie guys to send one to WilliamS and prove to the forum that it will work. Maybe CuylerTech can make this happen. It seems like every time we make progress on this mod, he pipes in to remind us that the Genie guys have this capability now. Maybe he has a connection with them.

And of course even if the ODBGenie works, they need to lower the price to their normal $199. Why is this mod so different from adding a backup or cargo cam? They are just trying to capitalize on the fact that this is a new mod and there will be several people needing this done.


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