Nitto Ridge Grapplers or Falken Wildpeak AT3/W

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Looking to get new tires for my truck (2018 Ram 1500 Sport 4x4). I currently have BFGoodrich KO2s and although they're great tires, they never had very good traction on wet surfaces. I'm trying to decide between the ridge grapplers and the falken wildpeaks. Overall, here is what I'm curious about and want to know which tire performs best in these categories:

1. Tread life (My KO2s have 65,000 miles on them and are just now at 4/32")
2. Best in terms of traction on wet surfaces
3. Road noise and ride comfort

Also if it helps, my tire size is 275/60R20
 

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I have been running a set of Ridge Grapplers for a few years now. 295-65r20 size. Tread life is okay but not great on them, I have around 25k miles now and I think they are a bit past half worn. I am sure I would have extended their life a bit if I rotated them more often but no way these would last 65k miles.

I am one of the few guys here that complains about the wet weather performance on these tires. They are average at best in the wet.

Road noise and comfort are top notch. The only time I can really hear them is if I am on a concrete freeway with my windows open. Then they are loud but I think most tires are in that situation.

Overall I don't hate them but I won't be buying another set. Especially because of how expensive they were. I am actually leaning towards KO2s for my next set of tires.
 
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I have been running a set of Ridge Grapplers for a few years now. 295-65r20 size. Tread life is okay but not great on them, I have around 25k miles now and I think they are a bit past half worn. I am sure I would have extended their life a bit if I rotated them more often but no way these would last 65k miles.

I am one of the few guys here that complains about the wet weather performance on these tires. They are average at best in the wet.

Road noise and comfort are top notch. The only time I can really hear them is if I am on a concrete freeway with my windows open. Then they are loud but I think most tires are in that situation.

Overall I don't hate them but I won't be buying another set. Especially because of how expensive they were. I am actually leaning towards KO2s for my next set of tires.
Thanks for your reply. Yeah again, the KO2s are fantastic tires. They're incredibly durable and maybe given the fact that I've rotated them roughly every 6000-7000 miles, have lasted me around 65k miles, which is 15k miles passed the tread life warranty so not too bad. They're also very smooth on the highway with little to no road noise. Granted mine are D1 rated so it might be a different story if you get E rated tires for instance.

I've read that the Wildpeaks have better wet traction than the KO2s but I wasn't sure if that's what people with similar trucks to mine are actually experiencing or not. It just gets confusing because you hear one thing about a tire but then when I asked the sales rep at Discount Tire the other day, he said the Wildpeaks had worse wet traction than the KO2s and that the Ridge Grapplers were better. He also stated that people were getting around 80,000 miles out of the Ridge Grapplers which I personally find very hard to believe for any all-terrain tire.
 

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If wet traction is a concern, then get the Faulkens. I have ridge grapplers now and the wet traction is sub par. Why I am running a dedicated winter wheel/tire combo. I do like the ride of the grapplers and dry pavement manners. Tire spin on wet roads has me slowing down more than normal when cornering. Ran the KO2 on my last Ram and loved them. Zero issues on wet or snow/ice covered roads. Didn’t run a dedicated winter tire for 2 winters with that tire then found a deal on Blizzaks I couldn’t pass up.
 

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Go with the falkens unless you need the more aggressive tread and run snow tires in the winter.
 

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Thanks for your reply. Yeah again, the KO2s are fantastic tires. They're incredibly durable and maybe given the fact that I've rotated them roughly every 6000-7000 miles, have lasted me around 65k miles, which is 15k miles passed the tread life warranty so not too bad. They're also very smooth on the highway with little to no road noise. Granted mine are D1 rated so it might be a different story if you get E rated tires for instance.

I've read that the Wildpeaks have better wet traction than the KO2s but I wasn't sure if that's what people with similar trucks to mine are actually experiencing or not. It just gets confusing because you hear one thing about a tire but then when I asked the sales rep at Discount Tire the other day, he said the Wildpeaks had worse wet traction than the KO2s and that the Ridge Grapplers were better. He also stated that people were getting around 80,000 miles out of the Ridge Grapplers which I personally find very hard to believe for any all-terrain tire.
Mine are the E rated RGs. I would like to add though, I have done some pretty light offroading with my truck. My tires have small chunks missing from some of the tread lugs. I have heard that more serious offroading kills these tires.

Also, in the heat and sun in Az after the first year of owning these tires small cracks popped up between the tread. I went back to discout tire and asked about them and they said that was normal. Which, to be fair, I have not had any issues. But, I was seriously concerned at first. My truck is kept in the garage too so the only time it sits in the sun is at work.

There is absolutely nothing you could do to make these tires last to 80k miles. Guy is full of it.

If you are worried about wet performance I think you should probably stay away from the RGs. I put my truck in 4 auto in the rain because it will spin the tires so dang easy.
 
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Thanks everyone for your replies. Looks like the Falkens are the ones that I'll be going for then.

@G-Ride990 I agree on the 80,000 miles BS. The only way I see that happening is if people are running them until they are well passed the wear bars and are practically bald at that point. But anyways, it sounds like the Falkens are exactly what I'm looking for and I haven't really heard of any downsides to them either.
 

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I have been running a set of Ridge Grapplers for a few years now. 295-65r20 size. Tread life is okay but not great on them, I have around 25k miles now and I think they are a bit past half worn. I am sure I would have extended their life a bit if I rotated them more often but no way these would last 65k miles.

I am one of the few guys here that complains about the wet weather performance on these tires. They are average at best in the wet.

Road noise and comfort are top notch. The only time I can really hear them is if I am on a concrete freeway with my windows open. Then they are loud but I think most tires are in that situation.

Overall I don't hate them but I won't be buying another set. Especially because of how expensive they were. I am actually leaning towards KO2s for my next set of tires.
That is how my dads Ridge Grapplers are too. They wore fast. I am also a stickler on wet weather and tires. I havent asked my dad about what he thinks, but things like that dont bug him. My Toyos have worn very well. They do great in rain too. The KO2's are a great choice. I told him to look into those next.
 

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Tire Rack reviewers have been saying recent BFG K02's have very fast wear. General Grabber ATX is #1 (I bought, concur), Falken Wildpeak ATW #2, but made in Thailand. General made in USA.
 
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Tire Rack reviewers have been saying recent BFG K02's have very fast wear. General Grabber ATX is #1 (I bought, concur), Falken Wildpeak ATW #2, but made in Thailand. General made in USA.
How recent? I just double checked mine and 3 of them say 1919, which means that they were made on the 19th week of 2019, so around the first week of May. The 4th one, which is the front driver's side tire is 1719, or the 2 or 3rd week of April 2019, however I had to crawl under the truck to find it because the tire was turned around and had the 7111 code facing outwards for whatever reason. Anyway, mine are about 2 1/2 years old and they've lasted me for around 65,000 miles. Also, I tend to find it difficult to trust online reviews, especially on tires because you can have one person saying the tires are horrible and then another person with the exact same type of vehicle saying that the tires are great. That's why I try to watch videos or just word of mouth on what to get. Of course sometimes it's just luck of the draw and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. Lastly, I'm not sure if where the tire is made really matters all that much in terms of quality. After all, the stock Goodyear Wrangler SR-As that come on the truck from the factory are made in the USA and they're absolute garbage. I had to replace them for the KO2s I have now at 43,000 miles. Of course the other reason was because I had mesquite thorns in the sidewalls of all 4 tires but the tread was just about gone at that point as well. The Grabbers might be excellent tires and all. It's just that I don't much about them which is why I didn't mention them.
 
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