Occasional tick from engine

[djh1040]

I have a 2012 ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi and the other day I was driving, my truck began to tick pretty badly. I got a video of it that I attached below. The weird thing about it is that I've always heard hemi tick no matter the lifters or the manifold are always very prominent on cold start. The truck has never ticked on a cold start, and it only happens when warmed up and driving but, about half the time it won't tick at all. I was wondering if any of yall knew what this could be? The first tick happened about 3 days ago.




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[Burla]

My guess either lifters or valve spring, I might consider a lubrication strategy in my sig redline 5w30, but that does sound pretty bad. If it was lifters, you would likely see some change in that, if it was the same then I'd lean for a valve spring or even exhaust. Always rule out exhaust manifold bolts before anything. Other considerations, run coeds and get a compression check.

 

[jws123]

Cam and lifter time! sounds like a roller broke off of the lifter I would stop running it until you tear it down so you dont damage it more.

 

[Dginn69]

My 09 is doing the exact same thing. No noise on startup and it does not do it all time. I checked the exhaust manifold bolts and those are not loose or broken. I can hear it pretty good near the oil pan underneath.
Someone had told me that if the noise comes as it warming up and you can hear it underneath it could be a rod knock.
I may take the valve cover off to check the valve springs. MY noise seems to be on the passenger side.
If you find out what it is please share?

Hemi Tick?

My 09 Ram 1500 recently stated making this noise after it warms up. Exhaust bolts are all in tact. Could it be lifters or rod knock.

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Hemi Tick or rod knock? Or something else?

My 09 Ram 1500 recently stated making this noise after it warms up. Exhaust bolts are all in tact. Could it be lifters or rod knock.

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[jws123]

My 09 is doing the exact same thing. No noise on startup and it does not do it all time. I checked the exhaust manifold bolts and those are not loose or broken. I can hear it pretty good near the oil pan underneath.
Someone had told me that if the noise comes as it warming up and you can hear it underneath it could be a rod knock.
I may take the valve cover off to check the valve springs. MY noise seems to be on the passenger side.
If you find out what it is please share?

Hemi Tick?

My 09 Ram 1500 recently stated making this noise after it warms up. Exhaust bolts are all in tact. Could it be lifters or rod knock.

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Hemi Tick or rod knock? Or something else?

My 09 Ram 1500 recently stated making this noise after it warms up. Exhaust bolts are all in tact. Could it be lifters or rod knock.

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Does not sound like a rod at all I hear injectors possibly a sticky lifter on that one side sounds like it runs smooth they all tick a little I would do a oil change if you have not done one in a while.

 

[Curt Gobbell]

Sounds just like mine did when it collapsed a lifter

 

[Dginn69]

Does not sound like a rod at all I hear injectors possibly a sticky lifter on that one side sounds like it runs smooth they all tick a little I would do a oil change if you have not done one in a while.

Thanks for the reply. That's good to hear you don't think it's a rod knock. The lifter were replaced a few month ago (right before I bought it) and the truck sat for 2 months while I tied to sell my truck. The Oil change was done about 1000 miles ago. Pennzoil UP 5w30 Purolator Boss filter.
We are supposed to take it from NJ to Florida and I was panicking that my engine would fail. The motor runs great and there are no codes.
I do know they all tick but I was concerned about the long trip. I sent the video to the previous owner (a friends' son) and he said the same thing you said.
So being the lifter were done so recently, could the sticky lifter be caused from sitting? And how is a sticky lifter resolved? And is there consequences for running it?

 

[Dginn69]

Sounds just like mine did when it collapsed a lifter

The lifters were just replaced less than 3 months ago, and the truck has had less than 1200 miles since they were done. I know anything is possible but that isnt a lot of time or miles for the new lifters to fail? Or am I worng?

 

[jws123]

Thanks for the reply. That's good to hear you don't think it's a rod knock. The lifter were replaced a few month ago (right before I bought it) and the truck sat for 2 months while I tied to sell my truck. The Oil change was done about 1000 miles ago. Pennzoil UP 5w30 Purolator Boss filter.
We are supposed to take it from NJ to Florida and I was panicking that my engine would fail. The motor runs great and there are no codes.
I do know they all tick but I was concerned about the long trip. I sent the video to the previous owner (a friends' son) and he said the same thing you said.
So being the lifter were done so recently, could the sticky lifter be caused from sitting? And how is a sticky lifter resolved? And is there consequences for running it?

Sticky lifters could most certainly be caused from sitting if you do not drive it a lot If the lifters where just done very un likely one would fail that soon. I would still do another oil change and just drive it they may need to just break in if they are newer lifters.

 

[Dginn69]

Sticky lifters could most certainly be caused from sitting if you do not drive it a lot If the lifters where just done very un likely one would fail that soon. I would still do another oil change and just drive it they may need to just break in if they are newer lifters.

Makes sense. I have a very short commute to work. And I do not drive it every day. I did notice the tick does not appear till after the truck is warmed up and driven.
I would hope that new lifters wouldn't fail so soon.

 

[Dginn69]

Sounds just like mine did when it collapsed a lifter

Collapsed lifter really doesn't damage the engine? Correct? Did you fix it?

 

[jws123]

Collapsed lifter really doesn't damage the engine? Correct? Did you fix it?

If yours was collapsed It would run rough by the vid sounds like it runs smooth and you have no engine light right?

 

[Dginn69]

If yours was collapsed It would run rough by the vid sounds like it runs smooth and you have no engine light right?

Yes the engine runs very smooth and no there are no active codes or pending codes.
So I bought a Purolator Boss filter. It seems some say that is not a great filter. I also have a Fram XG2 utltra. What would you install? I am doing the OC tomorrow when the Lubegard arrives.

 

[Oliver Closehauf]

your engine have MDS?

 

[Dginn69]

your engine have MDS?

Yes it does.

 

[Oliver Closehauf]

I saw a video where this guy goes into some detail about the way the MDS system works and according to him, during normal operation your lifters are actually getting lower pressure oiling than when the MDS is engaged. He was suggesting that as part of the tick fix, MDS should be torn out and replaced with some kind of non adjustable valve put in its place to keep the lifter pressure high.

It was a long video and one that was meant to spark debate. But if you just replaced cam and lifters (there's always a chance to get a bad one), and you already have one ticking, maybe that's something you may want to look at. Maybe it's as simple as an o-ring allowing too much pressure to bleed off.

I don't have the hemi or the tick so I've not really paid a lot of attention, but that vid stuck in my mind so I thought to mention it.

 

[Curt Gobbell]

Dginn69,

I did fix it. See link below


Post in thread '2014 5.7L Knock/Tick/Tap?' https://www.ramforum.com/threads/2014-5-7l-knock-tick-tap.169507/post-2396626

 

[Dodge 1500 4X4]

Pull the valve cover off on the side that the tick is more noticeable, Cam could be wiped out, again why replace lifters and not the cam!!!

 

[B250]

Soon as I heard it on the video I knew - valve gear problem. Can you hear it from 1/2 mile down the road? Oil starvation to one or more lobes can cause the case hardening to fail. Oil starvation can be caused by sludge clogging the oilways, which is caused by tardy oil changes. What condition is the oil in? Have you been able to feel the cam lobes? If you can see or feel rough areas on the cam lobe(s) the case hardening has gone. Don't run the engine until you're sure there is good oil pressure to all parts. The next thing to fail could be you main bearings!

 

[Dginn69]

Pull the valve cover off on the side that the tick is more noticeable, Cam could be wiped out, again why replace lifters and not the cam!!!

I the previous owner who did the work said the cam was in perfect condition & did not need to be replaced.