Retorquing lug nuts

[truck2014]

The necessity for rebalancing tires may be more specific to individual tire types.
I've noticed the BFG KO series requires more weights and is more effort to balance than a Michelin road tire.

The local mechanic's shop is pretty small and the lead mechanic owns the shop.
Whenever I have any work done, I spend all of my time in the garage and have a front-row seat to all work completed on my vehicle.

That said, many years ago during a seasonal wheel change I was too lazy to complete, I got curious about the state of balance on my several-year-old winter BFGs.

The shop agreed to spin the wheels first to check the balance before popping the weights off.
I was standing next to the mechanic at the balancing machine and saw firsthand when 2 of the 4 wheels failed.

The burlier AT-type tires may be worth a recheck every once in a while.

YMMV

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I disagree about any brand of tire needing rebalance , as said if you drive that vehicle out of the tire shop , and regardless of speed you have no vibration or change in steering or whatever what reason would there be to rebalance . Wouldn’t make sense to me , and sure didn’t to the manager of the tire shop that told me that years ago , and the fact he still owns , and runs that shop . That shop is where I still buy my tires from . We are into decades now with a relationship with that shop .

 

[truck2014]

While we are on the subject, what do most like on tire rotation on a four wheel drive truck ?

I like the front crossed to the back , and the back straight forward . That’s been my rotation for years .

 

[RamDiver]

I disagree about any brand of tire needing rebalance , as said if you drive that vehicle out of the tire shop , and regardless of speed you have no vibration or change in steering or whatever what reason would there be to rebalance . Wouldn’t make sense to me , and sure didn’t to the manager of the tire shop that told me that years ago , and the fact he still owns , and runs that shop . That shop is where I still buy my tires from . We are into decades now with a relationship with that shop .

So, you would suggest I ignore the balancer test failed on 2 of the 4 wheels and just go on my merry way?

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[truck2014]

So, you would suggest I ignore the balancer test failed on 2 of the 4 wheels and just go on my merry way?

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IMO , and the tire shop manager , what isn’t broken why fix it . Sorry , you must have had a reason why you wanted to rebalance ??????

Correct me if I’m wrong , the reason for balancing is just that balancing , enabling the tire to spin without vibration , or tire hop . I would assume you had vibration or something that you thought let’s rebalance ??????

I only run AT tires on my truck , and all season on my wife’s SUV. I can honestly say, let’s take the last 25 years . I haven’t rebalanced a set of tires that I can recall . Granted I don’t run mudders or any other aggressive tire , so I don’t rebalance unless I feel there is a need ,and that would be vibration . I can’t imagine someone let’s rebalance , but my vehicle feels fine , tires are wearing even , then why bother ??????

 

[Wild one]

IMO , and the tire shop manager , what isn’t broken why fix it , sorry you must have had a reason why you wanted to rebalance ??????

Correct me if I’m wrong , the reason for balancing is just that balancing , enabling the tire to spin without vibration , or tire hop . I would assume you had vibration or something that you thought let’s rebalance ??????

I only run AT tires on my truck , and all season on my wife’s SUV. I can honestly say, let’s take the last 25 years . I haven’t rebalanced a set of tires that I can recall . Granted I don’t run mudders or any other aggressive tire , so I don’t rebalance unless I feel there is a need ,and that would be vibration . I can’t imagine someone let’s rebalance , but my vehicle feels fine , tires are wearing even , then why bother ??????

Guess you've never had anything with enough power to spin the tire on the rim

 

[R_wilson2012]

The only reason I asked about re-torquing is that after driving for over 60 years and having tires rotated this is the first time I’ve had it mentioned to do it. I wonder if they charge for re-torquing them

It is always a good idea to retorque the wheels after they have been removed.i do mine at 130 ft/lbs and usually between 100-150kms(60-90miles) then because I'm **** and have had wheels come loose especially when I drove transport I'll go another 100-150kms(60-90miles).like has been mentioned buying your own torque wrench is a good idea and saves the hassle of going to a shop to have it done.i have yet to have a tire shop charge for a re-torquing I have actually had a few say they would rather take 5 mins and retorque someone's wheels verses hear it had come off and killed someone

 

[truck2014]

Guess you've never had anything with enough power to spin the tire on the rim

Sure I do , and if I aired down , and spun one I’d surely rebalance , there was a day when I was breaking axles , knocking weights off the wheels etc etc . Finally wised up , and we went to ATV’s hunting etc , and quit beating up our trucks . So no I don’t spin tires , and wheels anymore. But thanks for asking.

 

[Wild one]

Sure I do , and if I aired down , and spun one I’d surely rebalance , there was a day when I was breaking axles , knocking weights off the wheels etc etc . Finally wised up , and we went to ATV’s hunting etc , and quit beating up our trucks . So no I don’t spin tires , and wheels anymore. But thanks for asking.

I spin them on the rim fairly often at the dragstrip,where it's power spinning them,not from being aired down,lol. I've never went off roading,but i've broke more then my share at the dragstrip.

 

[Hardracer]

The necessity for rebalancing tires may be more specific to individual tire types.
I've noticed the BFG KO series requires more weights and is more effort to balance than a Michelin road tire.

The local mechanic's shop is pretty small and the lead mechanic owns the shop.
Whenever I have any work done, I spend all of my time in the garage and have a front-row seat to all work completed on my vehicle.

That said, many years ago during a seasonal wheel change I was too lazy to complete, I got curious about the state of balance on my several-year-old winter BFGs.

The shop agreed to spin the wheels first to check the balance before popping the weights off.
I was standing next to the mechanic at the balancing machine and saw firsthand when 2 of the 4 wheels failed.

The burlier AT-type tires may be worth a recheck every once in a while.

YMMV

.

I agree with the difff.types of tires some may wear alittle different.that will trow off a balance...in a perfect world that isn't supposed to happen though...in my case I have them re balanced every time..last 3 times same as you..2 were out...1 of those times was from thrown weights...I felt that right away and had an appointment for the Friday of that week

 

[truck2014]

I agree with the difff.types of tires some may wear alittle different.that will trow off a balance...in a perfect world that isn't supposed to happen though...in my case I have them re balanced every time..last 3 times same as you..2 were out...1 of those times was from thrown weights...I felt that right away and had an appointment for the Friday of that week

Well of course rebalance if they need it . I know people do it all the time , hey I got free rotation , and balancing , by darn I’m getting them balanced . If they want some knot head doing it every time , great . Their vehicle , their choice .

I personally don’t want them to do anything with my tires , and wheels after the purchase , unless it’s needed .

 

[Marshall]

I spin them on the rim fairly often at the dragstrip,where it's power spinning them,not from being aired down,lol. I've never went off roading,but i've broke more then my share at the dragstrip.

I don't remember ever spinning a tire, ??? , but if my younger brother borrowed my 58 Edsel, or the Olds, more then once he took spider gears out or burned the clutch, and he never had any money for parts after spending it on beer and girls.
Guess you need to set priorities in life.
Cheap bugger.

Off roading was driving in a ditch to get to the tractor in the field, or maybe popping gophers out the window.

 

[Wild one]

I don't remember ever spinning a tire, ??? , but if my younger brother borrowed my 58 Edsel, or the Olds, more then once he took spider gears out or burned the clutch, and he never had any money for parts after spending it on beer and girls.
Guess you need to set priorities in life.
Cheap bugger.

My truck would spin the drag radials a good 1/2" after a night at the track. I used to screw the slicks to the rims on this old toy,otherwise i'd tear the tubes,lol

 

[Marshall]

Kids would do that on the 4/8 tires on the go cart I build for them back in the day after I tuned up the B&S a bit more for them.
I finally went tubeless tires and solved the problem, as long as they kept air pressure
My girl was telling the young ones how Grandpa showed them how to do donuts
Should have put a odometer on that , would be a hi mileage I think.

 

[Justin33]

They tend to have more vibration than street tires so if somethings going to loosen up it'll just exacerbate the situation...
Retorquing is pretty quick and easy insurance...

Yeah need to been over 200 miles and I’m running Duratracs

 

[sdeeter19555]

The necessity for rebalancing tires may be more specific to individual tire types.
I've noticed the BFG KO series requires more weights and is more effort to balance than a Michelin road tire.

The local mechanic's shop is pretty small and the lead mechanic owns the shop.
Whenever I have any work done, I spend all of my time in the garage and have a front-row seat to all work completed on my vehicle.

That said, many years ago during a seasonal wheel change I was too lazy to complete, I got curious about the state of balance on my several-year-old winter BFGs.

The shop agreed to spin the wheels first to check the balance before popping the weights off.
I was standing next to the mechanic at the balancing machine and saw firsthand when 2 of the 4 wheels failed.

The burlier AT-type tires may be worth a recheck every once in a while.

YMMV

.

You can balance a wheel/tire combo, loosen the machine's spindle, move the wheel/tire around, and the machine will show a difference when spun up. I mounted and balanced thousands of tires...never had one that would show balanced on a second spin even with calibrated machines. The service guy for the equipment gave me a reason back then, but I've since forgotten in those 35 years past.

I had a lifetime balance at Sears, had a 99 Dodge Cummins that would spin the wheel in the Michelin LTX A/S tire because of the crosswalk strips at redlights (tire would slip then grab, when it grabbed the wheel kept turning). Eventually I went to balancing powder because it was a monthly occurrence and just downright annoying.

One reason they tell you to leave well enough alone is the tire wears to the out-of-balance condition itself. If you rebalance, then you can get a vibration from the wear pattern.

 

[Hardracer]

Agree also bout the machine and doing it twice and not the same when moved...that also happened on my tires as I was eagle eyeing them.
Drives me nutz here at work when I cut valves and seats on 2 diff.machines, if I do it again when moved/removed..it will not touch/start in the same place...cleans up in .0002-3 or so but it's not the same....I kinda like perfection but hardly ever get that perfect kind of work down to a finite measurement..I only use a tenth gauge also when I hone...burns me up when I see more than like .0003 out....all acceptable though....i got a little side tracked again and ramblin.

 

[DILLIGAF]

I send my wheel lug nuts with a 1/2 Milwaukee impact on #3

Never had to re-torque them

 

[runamuck]

what are you guys torquing your 2500 HD lugs at.

 

[truck2014]

what are you guys torquing your 2500 HD lugs at.

Looking at the specs on a 2500 it's 140 , same as my 3500 . I've torqued to 140 since I bought the truck new in 2014 . Still running my stock wheels on my Laramie .

 

[sdeeter19555]

what are you guys torquing your 2500 HD lugs at.

I torque the steels on my 2500hd Silverado twice: once at 100 and then again at 125.