Retorquing lug nuts

[truck2014]

I torque the steels on my 2500hd Silverado twice: once at 100 and then again at 125.

Looking online again ,a lot of chatter about the ram 2500, 3500 wheel torque , I am also seeing 130 , so your guess is as good as mine . It was originally for my 2014 3500 140 , which as said I've done since new.

Maybe more will chime in on this .

 

[truck2014]

I send my wheel lug nuts with a 1/2 Milwaukee impact on #3

Never had to re-torque them

Only having air impact wrenches ,which I will use to remove about anything , I don't use one much for putting anything back on , but I do like the speed of getting stuff off . I will use my air ratchets to put stuff back on with a little caution , like differential bolts, transmission pans etc . Pretty careful with those small bolts . I have used my son's Dewalt 20 volt 1/2 impact , and it's impressive , no idea what torque they put on a wheel ,but I'll bet it's pretty high .

 

[sdeeter19555]

Only having air impact wrenches ,which I will use to remove about anything , I don't use one much for putting anything back on , but I do like the speed of getting stuff off . I will use my air ratchets to put stuff back on with a little caution , like differential bolts, transmission pans etc . Pretty careful with those small bolts . I have used my son's Dewalt 20 volt 1/2 impact , and it's impressive , no idea what torque they put on a wheel ,but I'll bet it's pretty high .

I bought an 85 lb-ft torque stick to run mine on (to prevent over torquing)...run them down snug, set it on the ground, then use a torque wrench.

 

[Hagar1]

I've been doing it wrong for nearly 50 years...



I torque twice, once at 80 or 100 and again at 125. Never have retorqued after driving.

The torque specs for my 2012 call for 135 lb ft.

 

[truck2014]

I bought an 85 lb-ft torque stick to run mine on (to prevent over torquing)...run them down snug, set it on the ground, then use a torque wrench.

I believe I will get a torque stick , I’ve seen them , but never gave them much thought . Although I’m never in much of a hurry when I rotate , it would speed up the process the way I do it .

 

[BWL]

Lowest setting on my 1/2" impact is 100ft/lbs so I snug them up with that and finish with the torque wrench. Usually only takes a stroke or 2 with the torque wrench to get to 130ft/lbs after that. Never quite at the recomended torque yet so never over torqued.

 

[Curmudgeon]

 

[Adamcr68]

I believe I will get a torque stick , I’ve seen them , but never gave them much thought . Although I’m never in much of a hurry when I rotate , it would speed up the process the way I do it .

The first time I took my truck to
Quick-Shifter’s shop he had several different torque sticks to get within a couple pounds, wheels were off doing brakes.
I started to put center cap back on as he started on the next wheel, he stopped me & said everything gets hand torqued to be sure it’s right, that’s when I knew this is the only shop I trust with my truck.

 

[RamDiver]

The first time I took my truck to
Quick-Shifter’s shop he had several different torque sticks to get within a couple pounds, wheels were off doing brakes.
I started to put center cap back on as he started on the next wheel, he stopped me & said everything gets hand torqued to be sure it’s right, that’s when I knew this is the only shop I trust with my truck.

The underside of your truck looks mighty clean and shiny, I'm very envious.

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[Adamcr68]

The underside of your truck looks mighty clean and shiny, I'm very envious.

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All new parts installed that day, I try to clean every so often, but it is nowhere as clean today.

 

[RamDiver]

All new parts installed that day, I try to clean every so often, but it is nowhere as clean today.

I keep telling myself if I get one of those fancy Quick Lifts, I can spray the underside of the truck for at least 7 months of the year.

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[BWL]

I keep telling myself if I get one of those fancy Quick Lifts, I can spray the underside of the truck for at least 7 months of the year.

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You can get sprayers on wheels you connect to a pressure washer that do a good job with minimal effort. I use mine quite a bit. Not going to wim a car show with it, but still pretty good. https://www.amazon.ca/RIDGE-WASHER-Pressure-Undercarriage-Extension/dp/B08N47F8DK/ref=sxin_21_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.09f8f2d7-b0f7-4058-a33c-50c0f30e45b3:amzn1.sym.09f8f2d7-b0f7-4058-a33c-50c0f30e45b3&crid=35WL9QORRG4XH&cv_ct_cx=undercarriage+pressure+washer&keywords=undercarriage+pressure+washer&pd_rd_i=B08N47F8DK&pd_rd_r=53300a32-32b6-448d-9f07-d88d51e1b70c&pd_rd_w=6Bh09&pd_rd_wg=v0XyJ&pf_rd_p=09f8f2d7-b0f7-4058-a33c-50c0f30e45b3&pf_rd_r=BTK8SQBVR9JCYTH9CMZ0&qid=1743354683&sprefix=undercarriage,aps,297&sr=1-1-acb80629-ce74-4cc5-9423-11e8801573fb-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1

 

[RamDiver]

You can get sprayers on wheels you connect to a pressure washer that do a good job with minimal effort. I use mine quite a bit. Not going to wim a car show with it, but still pretty good. https://www.amazon.ca/RIDGE-WASHER-Pressure-Undercarriage-Extension/dp/B08N47F8DK/ref=sxin_21_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.09f8f2d7-b0f7-4058-a33c-50c0f30e45b3:amzn1.sym.09f8f2d7-b0f7-4058-a33c-50c0f30e45b3&crid=35WL9QORRG4XH&cv_ct_cx=undercarriage+pressure+washer&keywords=undercarriage+pressure+washer&pd_rd_i=B08N47F8DK&pd_rd_r=53300a32-32b6-448d-9f07-d88d51e1b70c&pd_rd_w=6Bh09&pd_rd_wg=v0XyJ&pf_rd_p=09f8f2d7-b0f7-4058-a33c-50c0f30e45b3&pf_rd_r=BTK8SQBVR9JCYTH9CMZ0&qid=1743354683&sprefix=undercarriage,aps,297&sr=1-1-acb80629-ce74-4cc5-9423-11e8801573fb-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1

Thanks, that looks like a great idea. It might be time to drive to NY for a few things.

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[20IndyRam]

I have always lubed the wheel studs with never seize and debited the torque spec. In part because I grew up driving rusted junk, and part because I'm an engineer and like consistent running torques.

On the rare occasion that someone else is working on the vehicle, I'll tell them that the studs are lubed (most mechanics notice it immediately).

That bit me in the A$$ on Friday. My daughter brought her '18 Mazda 3 up for a brake job (60K Miles). Found 2 stripped studs on one of the wheels. I had her tires replaced last year at Tire Rack and had told them about the lubed studs (they thanked me for the notification). Couldn't figure out what went wrong.

Then I remembered that she had a blowout in Indy and had a tire replaced (road hazard) by XYZ tire shop. Sure enough, that was the wheel with the stripped studs.

Now I'm trying to figure out whether to discontinue the practice, or find a way to notify OTHER people that may work on the car that the studs are lubed.

 

[Wild one]

Finally got tired of beating a socket on and off on my 300's wheels,and threw the garbage factory nuts in the recycle bin,and sprung for a set of splined nuts.

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[RamDiver]

I have always lubed the wheel studs with never seize and debited the torque spec. In part because I grew up driving rusted junk, and part because I'm an engineer and like consistent running torques.

On the rare occasion that someone else is working on the vehicle, I'll tell them that the studs are lubed (most mechanics notice it immediately).

That bit me in the A$$ on Friday. My daughter brought her '18 Mazda 3 up for a brake job (60K Miles). Found 2 stripped studs on one of the wheels. I had her tires replaced last year at Tire Rack and had told them about the lubed studs (they thanked me for the notification). Couldn't figure out what went wrong.

Then I remembered that she had a blowout in Indy and had a tire replaced (road hazard) by XYZ tire shop. Sure enough, that was the wheel with the stripped studs.

Now I'm trying to figure out whether to discontinue the practice, or find a way to notify OTHER people that may work on the car that the studs are lubed.

I've only applied anti-seize to my own or my GF lugs and not others unless they're very particular and won't forget.

AFAIK, the only likely damage from not reducing the torque by about 20% on lubed nuts would be elongation damage. And that wouldn't happen if they were torqued to spec, only much higher.

Stripped lugs are primarily caused by fools with an impact and no brains attached.

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[BWL]

I would say stripped lugs are mostly impact wrench without starting the nut by hand and crossthreading it on.

 

[RamDiver]

I would say stripped lugs are mostly impact wrench without starting the nut by hand and crossthreading it on.

Didn't I say that already?

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[Tulecreeper]

I have found that two 'uhgs' and one good aarrgghh! is always plenty of torque.

 

[20IndyRam]

I've only applied anti-seize to my own or my GF lugs and not others unless they're very particular and won't forget.

AFAIK, the only likely damage from not reducing the torque by about 20% on lubed nuts would be elongation damage. And that wouldn't happen if they were torqued to spec, only much higher.

Stripped lugs are primarily caused by fools with an impact and no brains attached.

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Oh, I understand completely. I wasn't there and I'm trying to give XYZ shop the benefit of the doubt. In my experience, most shops will try to do the right thing if you give them the chance.

What really pi$$es me off is they let her go out the door with 3 out of 5 lugs on the wheel (2 had no holding torque). Fortunately, it was on the rear tire, the Mazda 3 is a light car, and my Daughter (now 30 something) doesn't drift the car as much.