Synthetic Motor Oil Poll 2017

[Burla]

smoothee a lot of places in Canada have websites attached, maybe you can get it cheaper. Check it out, GL

 

[U&A]

To be fair it isn't just Amsoil but almost every oil that is trying to meet API ILSAC GF-6 and the previous gov't lower standard 700ppm zinc to meet API. Heavy duty oils and some boutiques stay away from the API donut for that reason, they don't want to ruin what their science says is good oil. Amsoil like others are making oils that are the future of what gas engines will be, DI Turbo's. Maybe or maybe not the best oil for a hemi, for every owner to make thier own choice on that.

Undersand. Just mentioned amsoil as it was his oil if choice.

I wish there was a way to post up a link to a page that we have basic info like this. Would be much better. We could continually add, subtract or adjust the info in the link as needed.

 

[Burla]

Well, this thread will have the good info in the beginning, so no reason to keep bringing it up, just have people read from page 1 to 20 or whatever. Keep it small. For longer discussions, come on over to the syn thread. You can always edit your posts here, so you can update anything if you are in early.

 

[smoothee]

smoothee a lot of places in Canada have websites attached, maybe you can get it cheaper. Check it out, GL

Will do, thanks Burla!

 

[Ramnewbie]

How's the new oil standards going to affect the turbo users?

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[U&A]

How's the new oil standards going to affect the turbo users?

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Just one thing i have thought of. Turbo engines are generally harder on oil and they are making the oil less “protective”. So the oil will defanitly not hold up near as long.

But, manufacturers are going to continue to push longer OCI because they dont give a **** about engine life.

 

[Ramnewbie]

Just one thing i have thought of. Turbo enges are generally harder on oil and they are making the oil less “protective”. So the oil will defanitly not hold up near as long.

But, manufacturers are going to continue to push longer OCI because they dont give a **** about engine life.

That's kinda what I was thinking. The eco boost is DI so it should be using the new oil but from what I've heard they are allready hard in oil. Double whammy for them.

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[U&A]

The solution to LSPI is to continually keep the RPMs above 3,000 like i did with my 3.5 eco boost... then it’s no longer “Low Speed”

Then you can use regulare redline all day long

 

[Ramnewbie]

Is cokeing the intake valves and LSPI related to each other or are they 2 completely different issues in a DI engine?

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[U&A]

Is cokeing the intake valves and LSPI related to each other or are they 2 completely different issues in a DI engine?

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Different issues

 

[Ramnewbie]

Maybe I've just got too much old school left in me but I'm thinking this LSPI issue has been created by the manufactures upping the compression ratios and boosting the engines for performance and still claiming to be able to run 87 octane gas. Back in the day anything above 10 to 1 was premium gas.

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[U&A]

^^^

 

[U&A]

Maybe I've just got too much old school left in me but I'm thinking this LSPI issue has been created by the manufactures upping the compression ratios and boosting the engines for performance and still claiming to be able to run 87 octane gas. Back in the day anything above 10 to 1 was premium gas.

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I also think it has a lot to do with were the power band is in the ecoboost. It is so frekin low in the rpm range its unreal. It is super helpful durring towing and really almost every situation in daily driving. But I think I is a large contributor to LSPI.

 

[fbeau]

OMFG I’m not going to post how much that oil costs in Saskatchewan.


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[Pauly67]

Hey Guys, been reading pages and pages of posts in the synthetic oil thread with some great info from all you guys. I have a '17 Big Horn w 5.7 Hemi and I just purchased my 20-820 RP Oil filter & PUP 0w40 & 5w30 for my second oil change at 10k. I was planning to mix 3q- 40w & 4q- 30w but I noticed recently RLK or SYN is very happy with 6q -40w & 1q-30w. Which is best for my winter oil change? I'm in sunny Buffalo NY lol. Appreciate your feedback!!

 

[R.L.K.]

LOL ,

Hey Guys, been reading pages and pages of posts in the synthetic oil thread with some great info from all you guys. I have a '17 Big Horn w 5.7 Hemi and I just purchased my 20-820 RP Oil filter & PUP 0w40 & 5w30 for my second oil change at 10k. I was planning to mix 3q- 40w & 4q- 30w but I noticed recently RLK or SYN is very happy with 6q -40w & 1q-30w. Which is best for my winter oil change? I'm in sunny Buffalo NY lol. Appreciate your feedback!!

LOL , maybe Syn ran a 6+ qt mixture of the 0W- 40 wt in his 1500 , 5.7L can't remember....
I ran a 50/50 mix of the PUP 0W-40 & PUP 5W-30 ..That's 3.5qts of each , I was happy with it I guess , but I had a very faint tick start up at about 2,500 mile mark So I went back to Redline.
I do however think the PUP is a fantastic oil and even in the harsh winter's of the NE I believe a 50/50 mix would be fine ...if you worried about the outside temps and high oil pressure just substitute the 30wt PUP with the 20wt PUP , but definitely use 3 to 4 qts of the PUP 0W-40 IMO, as the 0W-40 PUP has a higher level of Molybdenum...witch the 5.7 L lifters and cam seem to really like [emoji44]

Hope this helps you Sir !

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[chrisbh17]

Anyone been watching the Pennzoil Gold thread on BITOG?

It looks like some seriously good oil in the new formulation (Dexos 1, Gen 2). But I havent seen a VOA yet....not sure of the all-important moly and zinc levels.

 

[Pauly67]

LOL , LOL , maybe Syn ran a 6+ qt mixture of the 0W- 40 wt in his 1500 , 5.7L can't remember....
I ran a 50/50 mix of the PUP 0W-40 & PUP 5W-30 ..That's 3.5qts of each , I was happy with it I guess , but I had a very faint tick start up at about 2,500 mile mark So I went back to Redline.
I do however think the PUP is a fantastic oil and even in the harsh winter's of the NE I believe a 50/50 mix would be fine ...if you worried about the outside temps and high oil pressure just substitute the 30wt PUP with the 20wt PUP , but definitely use 3 to 4 qts of the PUP 0W-40 IMO, as the 0W-40 PUP has a higher level of Molybdenum...witch the 5.7 L lifters and cam seem to really like [emoji44]

Hope this helps you Sir !

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Thanks for quick reply RLK. I'm liking what I've been reading about the 0w-40w PUP ........is it true that the 6.4 Hemi runs 0w-40 from the factory?? Why would the 5.7 require the mix w 5w30 or 5w20???

 

[chrisbh17]

Thanks for quick reply RLK. I'm liking what I've been reading about the 0w-40w PUP ........is it true that the 6.4 Hemi runs 0w-40 from the factory?? Why would the 5.7 require the mix w 5w30 or 5w20???

Hemi 5.7 requires all 5w-20, not mixed.

6.4 is just a different engine, mostly. And I think its only in the 2500 or higher, so its a "heavier duty" application engine.

The thought about mixing for the 5.7L is because the 20W side is thought to be a little thin for a big honkin 8 cylinder engine, along with the fact that the engine seems to prefer oil with as much molybendum as you can get.

PUP 0W-40 has a good amount of moly in it

PUP/PP 5W-20 or 5W-30 has less but still has some.

Redline has a ton but isnt something you can usually buy locally.

Oddly enough, even Pennzoil conventional has a decent amount of moly in it, but then you dont get the advantages of synthetic.

Another possibility is the latest formulation of Pennzoil Gold (synth blend), but I havent seen a VOA/UOA on it yet to be sure.

 

[smiley]

You can without a doubt run 5W-30 in the 5.7L without issue. Many are doing it.