2011 5.7 Ram with Stage 1 cam, long tubes 6.4 intake, catless y pipe stock cat-back Dyno 345hp what’s going on?

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It's not about restriction at all,never has been,it's all about pulses in the primaries creating a scavenging effect , to help pull in more intake flow. Even back in the 50's we knew about the scavenging effect created by the exhaust,check out what the RamChargers were doing in the 50's. By the later 70's it was common to run collector extensions to help promote scavenging,very few guys were running open headers with out collector extensions by then.
Actually it always was about restriction. If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be a need for headers . The data has been out there since the fifties. If the pipes are too big for the volume of air flow the scavenge effect is lost hence the use of collectors. Don’t mislead the audience into believing long tube headers with 3” pipes is the answer. You can repeat the same effect with a shop vac.
 

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Replace the headers with top fueler zummies then run a dyno. It’s not about open flow, it’s about the optimal flow.
 

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Actually it always was about restriction. If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be a need for headers . The data has been out there since the fifties. If the pipes are too big for the volume of air flow the scavenge effect is lost hence the use of collectors. Don’t mislead the audience into believing long tube headers with 3” pipes is the answer. You can repeat the same effect with a shop vac.
The exhaust behind the collectors isn't quite as important as the size of the primaries ,a 3" exhaust behind the headers is not usually to big,especially if the primaries are sized right and are the proper length for the rpm band you want your power to fall into. A set of headers with 28" long 2" diameter primaries is not gonna be a good fit on a naturally aspirated 5.7 with peak power in the 5800 to 6200 rpm range,whether there's a 2.5" or 3" exhaust behind them,while a set of 32" long by 1.75" diameter primaries will be alot better fit for producing torque where you need it,and will work good with either a 2.5" or 3" exhaust behind them.The differance between a 2.5" and 3" diameter set of exhaust pipes behind the collectors won't show as big a differance as having the wrong sized and length of primaries will.You should go back and re-read the article again,as i don't think you're quite getting the scavenging principle as well as you think
 
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LOL crazy. Yeah the jba's junk. Outlet of the stock manifolds larger than the jba's wtf. Said F that and put the manifolds back on *****
 

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LOL crazy. Yeah the jba's junk. Outlet of the stock manifolds larger than the jba's wtf. Said F that and put the manifolds back on *****
One test i've never seen done is comparing a ported set of stock manifolds against a set of shorties. I've always wondered how a set of extrude honed log manifolds that are port matched to the heads would stack up against a set of say JBA shorties or any other make of shorty header.
Might be a small niche market out there for a set of port matched/extrude honed stock manifolds,lol
 

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One test i've never seen done is comparing a ported set of stock manifolds against a set of shorties. I've always wondered how a set of extrude honed log manifolds that are port matched to the heads would stack up against a set of say JBA shorties or any other make of shorty header.
Might be a small niche market out there for a set of port matched/extrude honed stock manifolds,lol
with all of the stock manifolds on marketplace for less than 100$ a pair the machining could cost up to 1000$ and it would still be worth it! assuming the afe shorties being a few hundred more than that in Canadian tire money and more PIA to install this could be interesting.

do you have to bring them a head to port match with or are there databases they have access to? or bring your own data sheet lol
 

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with all of the stock manifolds on marketplace for less than 100$ a pair the machining could cost up to 1000$ and it would still be worth it! assuming the afe shorties being a few hundred more than that in Canadian tire money and more PIA to install this could be interesting.

do you have to bring them a head to port match with or are there databases they have access to? or bring your own data sheet lol
Exhaust gasket,and port match the manifold to it.The port match anybody can do with a die grinder and carbide bit and sanding rolls,but the extrude honing is something you'll have to have done by an outfit that specializes in it.
Extrude honing entails pushing an abrasive median through the manifold under pressure
 
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