Did Redline Oil work against your Hemi Tick?

[Burla]

I got so tired of fighting the cold start knock/tick that I traded in my '17 6.4 for a Cummins this past Thursday.

I used Redline 5w40 for over 1500 miles and it did nothing to quiet the valvetrain. What it did do was knock my fuel mileage down a good 2mpg on average.

I do want to say thank you to Burla and others who are doing there best to remedy these poorly built hemis through better lubrication. Unfortunately I feel like it's a bandaid to an underlying design flaw, one that FCA is refusing to address. Best of luck to all of you...

Sorry to hear it. The cold piston slap is a different thing then hemi tick, and 5w40 redline would be a bad choice to combat that. i encourage you to see that thread, just for your info. If you have warm idle tick, that is hemi tick. I hope you like the Cummins! You will have no iddes with oil with that thing, I miss my cummins as well, I had an HO, so smooth.

 

[ScrubsR1]

Sorry to hear it. The cold piston slap is a different thing then hemi tick, and 5w40 redline would be a bad choice to combat that. i encourage you to see that thread, just for your info. If you have warm idle tick, that is hemi tick. I hope you like the Cummins! You will have no iddes with oil with that thing, I miss my cummins as well, I had an HO, so smooth.

It was definitely the lifters. I took it to the dealership thinking it was a warped manifold and they came back and said it was the lifters causing the noise. Unfortunately they refused to address the problem until the truck threw a code. Keep in mind the truck was whisper quiet on startup when I purchased it...the tick came later in the trucks life. I've never heard piston slap sound like this:

 

[Wild one]

This test is interesting just in the way it was conducted.

 

[Burla]

It was definitely the lifters. I took it to the dealership thinking it was a warped manifold and they came back and said it was the lifters causing the noise. Unfortunately they refused to address the problem until the truck threw a code. Keep in mind the truck was whisper quiet on startup when I purchased it...the tick came later in the trucks life. I've never heard piston slap sound like this:

Yeah mine was quiet as well, hemi tick showed up at 3500 miles til I found redline, sorry it didnt work for ya.

That doesn't sound like most hemi ticks, and not mine for sure. Are you 100% it isn't exhaust bolts? Thanks for taking the time to capture and post vid.

 

[Lyle Longboat]

Contacted Partsource and they have Redline in stock for 50-60 bucks. I’ll be heading there on Monday and changing the oil next week sometime. Still can’t find any place around this area (Timmins) that sells Royal Purple filters. Amazon I guess.
I’m curious to see if this Redline helps quiet down my Hemi.

 

[Burla]

Well, it's been over a week and pretty eye opening results?

Only 16% of people with hemi tick still have it just as bad after after trying redline.

Of course that means hemi tick symptoms are better in 84% of the trucks that try it.

71% of people with hemi tick who use redline kill their tick completely.

About 33% of the forum is tired in hearing about how you all killed your ticks. Me thinks this is the group that did not have hemi tick in the first place, because I am never tired of hearing about another ram forum member who has killed their ticks.

Thanks for playing! Thanks to every forum member who took a chance, especially those who took a chance when they didn't have great success rates to encourage them. This place is the only place where this testing happened and reported. I think we have enough info that this is a thing, this is an official thing! Officially. A thing.. A Ram Forum thing.

 

[Bill Knight]

I've got almost 200,000 miles on my third gen Ram with a Hemi. I've never really noticed this "Hemi Tick" with my truck. I have typical broken exhaust studs so when you first flash her up it ticks until everything exspans. I use Lucas additive with my engine oil with every oil change. A friend of mine bought a 2011 and his definitely has the the tick. He tried the Lucas in it did make a difference. I told him a cam swap to comp cams 268 would make it better lol....

 

[U&A]

Well, it's been over a week and pretty eye opening results?

Only 16% of people with hemi tick still have it just as bad after after trying redline.

Of course that means hemi tick symptoms are better in 84% of the trucks that try it.

71% of people with hemi tick who use redline kill their tick completely.

About 33% of the forum is tired in hearing about how you all killed your ticks. Me thinks this is the group that did not have hemi tick in the first place, because I am never tired of hearing about another ram forum member who has killed their ticks.

Thanks for playing! Thanks to every forum member who took a chance, especially those who took a chance when they didn't have great success rates to encourage them. This place is the only place where this testing happened and reported. I think we have enough info that this is a thing, this is an official thing! Officially. A thing.. A Ram Forum thing.

This thread and poll was a really great idea Mike. And I don’t think you waited too long to do it. Giving time for the results is a good thing and if we keep this thread reasonably close to the top of the list people will keep voting.

Thanks for doing this brother


Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

 

[Old Fart]

Contacted Partsource and they have Redline in stock for 50-60 bucks. I’ll be heading there on Monday and changing the oil next week sometime. Still can’t find any place around this area (Timmins) that sells Royal Purple filters. Amazon I guess.
I’m curious to see if this Redline helps quiet down my Hemi.

That's where I get mine. I've searched for Royal Purple filters and found none locally.

 

[Lyle Longboat]

I just ordered a RP filter from Amazon Canada and will be in Wednesday. $31.49 to be exact.

 

[Eddie S]

Quieted my 2004 5.7 with 220,000 miles on it. No clatter on startup as well.
I am a believer!! LOL

 

[wgreggking]

Posted in the syn thread also. Reserving my vote after more redline.
Went from FF to PUP until this last change.This report was RL 0w40 as was all the PUP. Both PUP and RL develop Hot tick after 3K miles. I cut open the last three RP 1048 filters don't see anything visible of magnetic. Still concerns me bolts seem ok. does seem like viscoty is better. I had to do an OC last weeK after this oci, and used the last PUP I had on hand.
Maybe go back to RL . Still under the Power train warranty only.

 

[Burla]

Greg thanks for updating us, we want everyone who has tried it to vote, so please vote unless you are waiting to see the tick subsides. I encourage you to look at bolts again, but if your hemi is still warm idle ticking please vote as well, gives the forum accurate info.

side note every uoa of redline is heavy the first time, it could be to leaching ions or increased wear from anti wear additives. Anti wear additives create more wear at first, then lower, it is a fact, that is why we have zinc break in oils.

 

[Dodge 1500 4X4]

Greg thanks for updating us, we want everyone who has tried it to vote, so please vote unless you are waiting to see the tick subsides. I encourage you to look at bolts again, but if your hemi is still warm idle ticking please vote as well, gives the forum accurate info.

side note every uoa of redline is heavy the first time, it could be to leaching ions or increased wear from anti wear additives. Anti wear additives create more wear at first, then lower, it is a fact, that is why we have zinc break in oils.

Hay Mike, are you putting a additive in the oil to bring up the Moly content called Lubtech Bio Guard in the Redline.

 

[Burla]

You can put that additive into redline, basically put redline's moly level back to what it was in 2010. Redline used to be 880ppm, and then went down to 550, so yes adding moly to high moly redline is a thing. I'm not doing it because I don't need to, but I believe Kyle put some mos2 into redline to deal with piston slap, and I believe it did help. @U&A? Kyle did you get a uoa on that run?

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

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[U&A]

You can put that additive into redline, basically put redline's moly level back to what it was in 2010. Redline used to be 880ppm, and then went down to 550, so yes adding moly to high moly redline is a thing. I'm not doing it because I don't need to, but I believe Kyle put some mos2 into redline to deal with piston slap, and I believe it did help. @U&A? Kyle did you get a uoa on that run?

It DID help. I used about 1/3-1/2 bottle just one time...for about 3,000 miles or so. Then it slowly came back for a short period them went away again. Could’ve been a coincidence that it came back. Will never know. I dont condone the use of MOS2 in anyone’s vehicle. It is a solid non dissolvable moly. Floats around in your oil just as a contaminant would. There are better Oil soluble options.

But. It DID work.

now i dont use it and somehow I have not had piston slap or start up clatter in a long time. Just straight Redline 5w40 in the 6.4.

Maybe my truck just needed to get some time on it? I just broke 36,000 miles now. That is the unwritten magic number for the “break in” period for a hemi.

Don’t remember the math exactly but I think using a third of a bottle raised the Molly from around 500 something to around 800.



Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

 

[Burla]

good info to add to this thread, some guys who reldine helped but not completely quiet something to consider...

 

[Tim Garceau]

$80 on oil and then additive, talk about high maintenance!

 

[Burla]

Looks like maybe 5 people agree with you, and 37 probably don't. Find me another oil with that success rate and cheaper then I will gladly change.