Not right - front tires worn on outside edges

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I have a dually and experience the same thing but, have you noticed the wear on the R/F is worse? I have had my alignment checked numerous times and it is always dead on. The resident "red neck expert" at my Ram dealer told me all Rams with the 6.7 diesel wear on the right front tire due to torque from the engine. The Cummins is a beast we all know. Rotate the two front tires often. I am taking that as a fact and continue to rotate knowing my front tires will not last as long as the 4 on the rear.
Allegedly, according to weight. I have the same problem with my Motorcycle. With the straight tracking independent trike kit, pushes bike straight. Turning, you are actually scuffing on the tire, like sliding, which causes monster wear, so U end up getting new tire every 6K to 10K, depending upon your riding.
 
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What mileage are you rotating your tires and what rotation pattern are you using? On my 2006 2500 4x4 for over 16 years I used the back tires to front and crossed the front tires to rear, I never ever saw uneven tire wear like that even before I replace tie rod ends, drag link, pit man arm an a few other parts...
Sorry, I didn't specify dually in the orig post. I've asked the dealer to rotate but they don't seem to think it would matter. I kinda see their view that I'd only be swapping left for right and the problem is the same on both.
 

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Sorry, I didn't specify dually in the orig post. I've asked the dealer to rotate but they don't seem to think it would matter. I kinda see their view that I'd only be swapping left for right and the problem is the same on both.
You have to break down tires on a dually to do a rotation. If your dealer doesn't know that...
 
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Find a good alignment shop, and rotate your tires every 5K. This is an alignment issue, no matter what anyone tells you.
I have an appointment to check the alignment with a different dealer 11/3. I neglected to mention I have a dually. I don't put this truck through heavy use at all. I've only towed 21,000lb RV (4,500lb hitch) @ 4K miles. The rest of the 35K miles in normal light use. I wouldn't expect the alignment to be out under such conditions unless RAM just has the specs wrong and if so the dealer will only compare to orig specs. I'm kinda at a loss here. If the alignment is out per dealer would be unusual? We bought the MOPAR extended warranty - would that cover such things including worn tire?
 

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See my post #9. With rare exception, you are wasting your time at the dealer. Yes, the factory spec for toe-in is excessive for a straight axle. Find a shop that will use Thuren specs. I mentioned Firebird Tire. They do big motorcoaches, etc. Owner is Paul.

After having them align it, and going to Bridgestone Duravis R500s, I was having them rotate them every 10K with no irregular wear.
 

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May try to find an independent alignment shop that knows their stuff, apparently the factory specs aren’t all they should be. A good shop should be able to set things straight , dealership Techs usually do not look outside the box. They tend to follow the book and can not think independently.
 
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^^^ 100% ^^^ Find a competent shop that will use Thuren specs. Many will not deviate from factory specs. Keep looking 'til you find the right shop. If you are in Phx, I use Firebird Tire on 19th Ave. for my last dually, and will again when my '24 comes in. Bring the Thuren printout with you.
Thanks for the info. Funny thing, we moved from Phoenix to Tennessee a year ago and now I realize making that part of my handle was not the smartest thing...
 
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See my post #9. With rare exception, you are wasting your time at the dealer. Yes, the factory spec for toe-in is excessive for a straight axle. Find a shop that will use Thuren specs. I mentioned Firebird Tire. They do big motorcoaches, etc. Owner is Paul.

After having them align it, and going to Bridgestone Duravis R500s, I was having them rotate them every 10K with no irregular wear.
Thanks for the info. I think for now I'll keep my appointment with this (new to me) dealer and hope to eliminate any other issues with an alignment check and inspection of associated components along with verifying I'm at factory specs. I'll put new tires on and watch closely for the same wear. If it begins again I'll go to the Thuren specs before I ruin another set of tires.
 

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Thanks for the info. Funny thing, we moved from Phoenix to Tennessee a year ago and now I realize making that part of my handle was not the smartest thing...
My bad for assuming your location, sorry. I hope you can find an old-school front end guy.
 

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Sorry, I didn't specify dually in the orig post. I've asked the dealer to rotate but they don't seem to think it would matter. I kinda see their view that I'd only be swapping left for right and the problem is the same on both.
God I hate dealers when it comes to tires as most are stupid at best.... Below is a URL to the Micheline web site for tire rotation patterns ( about half way down they have a dual wheel rotation patterns, my self I would use the one that has the front tires going to the rear and one of the rear tires to the front... I have used there ( rear & 4 wheel and all wheel drive ) rotation patterns on all of my vehicles for over 45 years and have been very happy with the results, tread depth as recorded is always within 1/32 front to rear on wife's car and also the truck unless I happen to experience lead foot syndrome :oops: ... https://www.michelinman.com/auto/au...maintenance/tire-rotation-how-to-rotate-tires
 
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