PIN number question

[Jimmie Hensley]

Hi I just recently had a key made for my 2018 ram 2500 I asked the locksmith if he had access to my pin and he said yes he needed to use it to program my key

I asked him for the pin knowing the dealers are now not wanting to give them out

Now to the question.. is this the same pin I would use to reset my tpms thresholds? I’ve heard there is a rotating/changing pin and a constant pin

thanks for the help

 

[1500ram12]

They usually are given a rotating pin. If your dealer is unwilling to give it to you, you have 2 options, either try a different dealer or use a app called Chrysler pin puller.


2018 Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi Tradesman

 

[Jimmie Hensley]

Thanks I was hoping you wouldn’t say that lol

 

[Jendsley06]

I didn't know of the rotating pin for our trucks. I thought it was just the static pin. My wife's 200 has a rotating pin though. Just try your dealers parts counter. They should just need proof that it's your vehicle and give it to you. If you don't ask you won't know

 

[Gary2]

To the best of my knowledge the 4 digit pin is all thats needed. If you read through the ALFAOBD thread they give a pretty good explanation about the two types of codes. IIRC the 4 digit one is all we need for keys

EDIT from another thread


2019ram150057 said: ↑
just wanted to see if someone could answer this for me. i got a pin code for the RFH and the dealer said that it is only good for 24 hrs. is that the truth or are they blowing smoke again. the code did work for programming the key tip fob. just wanted to know if it runs out some how


Ignorance runs ramped to dealers regarding this subject and your dealer is no different. There are some FCA vehicles that have a rolling PIN but our trucks aren't one of them. At least not yet.

 

[Jimmy07]

To the best of my knowledge the 4 digit pin is all thats needed. If you read through the ALFAOBD thread they give a pretty good explanation about the two types of codes. IIRC the 4 digit one is all we need for keys

EDIT from another thread


2019ram150057 said: ↑
just wanted to see if someone could answer this for me. i got a pin code for the RFH and the dealer said that it is only good for 24 hrs. is that the truth or are they blowing smoke again. the code did work for programming the key tip fob. just wanted to know if it runs out some how


Ignorance runs ramped to dealers regarding this subject and your dealer is no different. There are some FCA vehicles that have a rolling PIN but our trucks aren't one of them. At least not yet.

The OP was given the PIN that his locksmith received for his truck. That means that the locksmith logged into techauthority with his license/credentials, and was given a PIN that expires. This is a different PIN than the one that the parts department at the dealership would give you.

 

[Gary2]

I don't quite get the confusion. If you read the ALFAODB Thread I mentioned people there use the 4 digit pin I mentioned for the tire threshold . I don't know what the parts guy gives or anyone else . All I am saying is according to the ALFAOBD people are changing the tire threshold he is asking about using the the code you get by using the 4 digit permanent PIN that you can get from the Chrysler PIN puller. That number does not rotate , jump , spin around or do flips. Once you have it it stays with the vehicle . If I am still misunderstanding the question this thread should be the place to ask or find it alfaobd.123982


EDIT I do see their is a bypass cable (?) needed for a 2018 and newer and if thats the question I don't know the procedure but it is in the thread I just mention as thats where I just saw it .
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[1500ram12]

I don't quite get the confusion. If you read the ALFAODB Thread I mentioned people there use the 4 digit pin I mentioned for the tire threshold . I don't know what the parts guy gives or anyone else . All I am saying is according to the ALFAOBD people are changing the tire threshold he is asking about using the the code you get by using the 4 digit permanent PIN that you can get from the Chrysler PIN puller. That number does not rotate , jump , spin around or do flips. Once you have it it stays with the vehicle . If I am still misunderstanding the question this thread should be the place to ask or find it alfaobd.123982


EDIT I do see their is a bypass cable (?) needed for a 2018 and newer and if thats the question I don't know the procedure but it is in the thread I just mention as thats where I just saw it .
alpha-obd-dealer-code.152886

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Starting simple. There are 3 (I believe) pin numbers

1- a permanent pin for the rf hub. Needed to program fobs or change anything related with the rf hub

2. A rotating pin number. Given to locksmiths that is only good for maybe 24 hour's.

3. A four digit pin with a letter ex. Either g1234 or 1234g, which if I remember is the code for the cut key in the fob.

Dealer's often confuse 1 with 2 but still give you the correct pin. Sometimes 3.

Ignore anything the dealer tells you about the pin being valid for 24 hour's. The only thing that maybe true is they are limited on how many pins they can access or give out in a day. A lot of dealers are unaware of the ability as owners we now have and need them less and less. Most parts and service people know the basics of the products. It's a job. Hell most salesmen only know what's in the brochure and know nothing more. Any time I'm at the dealer I use (which is rare now) I'm usually educating them on what's going on with ram truck's. The more they know the better their service will be for the next informed person asking about something out of the ordinary.

Edit. Apparently the 2019+ have a rotating pin every 12 hour's for the rf hub.

2018 Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi Tradesman

 

[g00fy]

So has anyone successfully used Chrysler pin puller on a 2019? I tried it on my truck tonight, but no joy, want to know if it's just me, or if it doesn't work on the 2019's...

Trying to change my tpms threshold and eventually add a remote start fob