RAM is Down!

[06 Dodge]

Well I'm glad they didn't charge you the $225, still cant figure out what they are thinking, I'm kind of surprised they didn't ask/take a fuel sample or maybe that's next line of

 

[06 Dodge]

Picked the truck up from the dealer on a fresh new oil change. They had a change of heart at the last min to not charge me anything. I will run the truck and document as I have and run it the next 500miles, return it on Monday. Pulled the dip stick before I left the lot and it was already over full... service advisor was standing there took notes and photo. I went home and cut the oil filter open, not shinny stuff but reeked of fuel. Wife sent me out for dinner so I drove the long way and put on 17miles on my truck filter is showing just over 1/4. This should be interesting run I'll keep everyone posted.View attachment 536633View attachment 536634View attachment 536635

OMG the dip stick photo tells me they are not following the 30 minute drain on oil changes recommended to them by the power that be, I've read during the first minutes 15 a pint of oil will drain from the upper part of the engine into the oil pan, during the next 15 another pint of oil can/will drain in to the oil pan thus the 30 minute rule for oil to drain before reinstalling the drain plug, though some have said you can get by with the minimum of 15 minute drain time as that other pint of old oil will not hurt anything ...

 

[Dinky]

OMG the dip stick photo tells me they are not following the 30 minute drain on oil changes recommended to them by the power that be, I've read during the first minutes 15 a pint of oil will drain from the upper part of the engine into the oil pan, during the next 15 another pint of oil can/will drain in to the oil pan thus the 30 minute rule for oil to drain before reinstalling the drain plug, though some have said you can get by with the minimum of 15 minute drain time as that other pint of old oil will not hurt anything ...

I just laughed at it.. it shows how serious the dealer is taking it. If I was the manager I would lose my ****. Documenting something for warranty and customer is documenting everything himself. Just remember my first trip the Tech mark on the paper work oil level was safe and it was a min fill mark lol.

 

[Choupique]

Man, that thing is Fd up.

In my little brain, that much fuel in the oil is a leaking injector, and I would be very concerned about hydrolocking the engine. The frequent regens are likely due to excess soot due to one cylinder running wet, which is going to exasperate the problem by forcing regens and more fuel in the cylinder.

Do you have an OBD monitoring tool you could use to monitor exhaust pressure?

 

[Dinky]

Man, that thing is Fd up.

In my little brain, that much fuel in the oil is a leaking injector, and I would be very concerned about hydrolocking the engine. The frequent regens are likely due to excess soot due to one cylinder running wet, which is going to exasperate the problem by forcing regens and more fuel in the cylinder.

Do you have an OBD monitoring tool you could use to monitor exhaust pressure?

Regen is happening because of the excessive fuel. The system is looking at static pressure and when the CCV and PCV valve got plugged from the fuel. It through the whole system off, now everything probably has fuel in it. Frequent regen can Cause some fuel to get into the oil but definitely not the rate I have. It is either the pump leaking or my injectors and no I am not watching pressure as it's under warranty and even if I knew what it was I still wouldn't replace it. It would void any warranty I would have.

 

[Yardbird]

The dealer probably doesn't know what is happening. They keep sending it back out in hopes of it blowing up. That way they just have to swap engines.

 

[Choupique]

I think my next step would be to request a look at the full troubleshooting tree from Cummins for fuel in oil, and confirmation the dealer has followed each step and each action. I have a hard time believing there isn't a published recommended course of action for this other than keep driving it and see if it blows up.

 

[Dinky]

I think my next step would be to request a look at the full troubleshooting tree from Cummins for fuel in oil, and confirmation the dealer has followed each step and each action. I have a hard time believing there isn't a published recommended course of action for this other than keep driving it and see if it blows up.

There isn't the 2022 6.7l is starting to show signs of bad issues at people are getting higher miles. There are a ton of people with frequent regens and they can't figure it out as every truck is different. My fuel in oil is most likely the cause of mine, but they keep disregarding what I say. At this point my motor will probably go and I will have to see what the next steps are.

 

[Dinky]

I think my next step would be to request a look at the full troubleshooting tree from Cummins for fuel in oil, and confirmation the dealer has followed each step and each action. I have a hard time believing there isn't a published recommended course of action for this other than keep driving it and see if it blows up.

Cummins probably already has NDAs saying they can not release certain info to General public and defers it to the dealer. You can not buy parts directly from Cummins for the truck already.
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[Dinky]

The dealer probably doesn't know what is happening. They keep sending it back out in hopes of it blowing up. That way they just have to swap engines.

Dealer thinks its the emissions. I won't settle for new motor at this point. 2022 and new motor? Truck will never be the same.

 

[06 Dodge]

Dealer thinks its the emissions. I won't settle for new motor at this point. 2022 and new motor? Truck will never be the same.

I have doubts it's an emission related problem dumping that much diesel into the oil in 400 miles without throwing codes right and left ( but I could be wrong) my guess all they have on the brain is you are having frequent regens so that just has to be the cause ( like you said they fail to listen you what your telling them, its like your talking to a person wearing ear plugs) its times like this is when they really need a master diesel mechanic on the pay roll and not a computer based parts changer for $22.5 hr....

 

[Dinky]

I have doubts it's an emission related problem dumping that much diesel into the oil in 400 miles without throwing codes right and left ( but I could be wrong) my guess all they have on the brain is you are having frequent regens so that just has to be the cause ( like you said they fail to listen you what your telling them, its like your talking to a person wearing ear plugs) its times like this is when they really need a master diesel mechanic on the pay roll and not a computer based parts changer for $22.5 hr....

Motor sounds way different today a getting a vibrations at idle lol.

 

[06 Dodge]

Motor sounds way different today a getting a vibrations at idle lol.

That's not encouraging news to be hearing being you just got it back from them with fresh Rotella T-6 oil change, half of me wants that engine to take a big in middle of their shop floor, but in doing so also it means a long process fight for you and I would not wish that on any one...

 

[Dinky]

That's not encouraging news to be hearing being you just got it back from them with fresh Rotella T-6 oil change, half of me wants that engine to take a big in middle of their shop floor, but in doing so also it means a long process fight for you and I would not wish that on any one...

Oh it went into regen cycle today. It stinks like no tomorrow definitely some fuel mixed into it as well.

 

[06 Dodge]

Oh it went into regen cycle today. It stinks like no tomorrow definitely some fuel mixed into it as well.

Dam it already went into regen dang, either the ECU is releasing regen fuel into the cylinders all the time or injectors are Sh it

 

[Dinky]

Dam it already went into regen dang, either the ECU is releasing regen fuel into the cylinders all the time or injectors are Sh it

2nd regen in 163 miles and they installed a new DPF.

 

[06 Dodge]

2nd regen in 163 miles and they installed a new DPF.

Now that is really F'ed up, I'm sure they will hate to see the next UOA report after 1K that is if it last that long that really sucks big time

 

[Dinky]

Now that is really F'ed up, I'm sure they will hate to see the next UOA report after 1K that is if it last that long that really sucks big time

I have one more test I am going to send out once I bring it back. I'll compare it to the last one, they really won't be able to argue after that.

 

[Yardbird]

They really don't want to fight with the Mothership, so they are sending you out on these stupid test, when the problem is staring them in the face. It won't fix itself.

I expect they are wanting a major blow up so they can do the easy thing and put an engine in it.

 

[Sherman Bird]

I once had a quack of a doctor make a mistake in my diagnosis over the course of a few weeks when I fell ill. I was 20 years old, and withered down almost 80 pounds and I could barely walk/stand. His mistake nearly cost me my life. I never went back to that doctor. The doctor who DID figure out what was wrong did so in literally 5 minutes of a physical exam and subsequent blood work done that day. He was worried about my surviving because my "simple" illness had progressed to the point of being very critical. I was out of work for weeks and didn't regain strength for 2 years.

Find a competent mechanic while you DON'T need one.