Synthetic Oil

[tjfdesmo]

I ordered 7 Qts of PUP 0W40 from Amazon. I think I'll milk this Amsoil out to 3K and, begrudgingly, dump it. See if my "tap" goes away. This experimentation shyt gets expensive!

 

[Burla]

Got my Redline 5w30, LiquiMoly and 10-48 RP filter coming from Amazon in the next week. It's my first time running any of these as I've been rocking either 5w20 Penzoil Platinum or M1 and Fram Ultragard syn filters since 9000 miles (now at 46000) I will report back engine changes (smoothness/reduced or removed tick), mileage increase/decrease and any "butt dyno" observations. I will be running at a minimum a 5000 mile OCI, if all looks/smells good I will push to 6000 and check again. 2 oil changes a year (driving conditions dependent) will save me a lot of time and some money.

6k is nothing for an OCI, you can look back at my uoa's with redline, 10k easy. However, I'm not sure adding liquimoly will help your redline oil change. In fact, my engine was louder and swishing sound with liquimoly. If I was you, I would give redline 500 -750 miles by itself before deciding to add liquimoly. If you do add lm, I wouldn't add the entire can. Either way, gl

In chemistry like attracts like, I'm not sure adding powdered moly in suspension wouldn't draw organic moly out of it's film, or visa versa. it is just an unknown, two different moly's.

 

[Hemi395]

I ordered 7 Qts of PUP 0W40 from Amazon. I think I'll milk this Amsoil out to 3K and, begrudgingly, dump it. See if my "tap" goes away. This experimentation shyt gets expensive!

Been there yes it does!

 

[R.L.K.]

I forgot BBB used the L M ....

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[Burla]

I have been very cautious with putting my experience up with it because what happened with me was rare, and Syn has done plenty of work here. But, when I hear someone is going to moly up a high moly oil, something says we should put some thought into that. LM dresses up a lot of oils, but ones high in the top two moly's, dunno?

In order.

TN moly
Organic Moly
Powdered moly in suspension.

 

[SportyJames]

What oil are you running now , and how many miles on it Sir ?

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5/20 Schaeffers.
40K

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[SportyJames]

Is that fully warmed up? If so that's the EXACT noise my truck made when fully warmed up on PP 5w20. Switched to Redline 5w20 and it decreased by about 60% and now on my PUP mix of 5w30 and 0w40 it's essentially non-existent.

I spent hundreds trying out different oils trying to find one that would quiet that noise. The only two that quieted it were the current PUP mix I'm running and Redline 5w30 or in my case 0w30.

Oh and my dealer told me 3 separate times that's "normal Hemi noise".

It had been running for about 5 minutes.

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[Burla]

Dealers are so full of fkin ****!!!!! If your lifter sounds like that and not smooth, you are creating resistance between the roller and the cam lob period end of the story. Something has to eventually give, as seen over and over in the forum. Most of the cam failures in the forum have been non moly oils. It is up to us to counter bad info from dealer or gov't ****.

 

[R.L.K.]

5/20 Schaeffers.
40K

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Well there's your problem , you probably should be changing your oil @ 6-9K intervals

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[U&A]

In regards to the manifold bolts I've been told you can switch them out to grade 8blots and they wont break anymore.

Anyone else hear that before?

 

[SportyJames]

Well there's your problem , you probably should be changing your oil @ 6-9K intervals

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About 8500 miles on this cycle.

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[Ramnewbie]

Has anyone heard of or used Archoil? From what I've heard from a dealer and what I've read on their website this stuff is supposed to be really good. I'm no chemist so only believe just so much of the advertisement stuff. Hopefully Syn or Burla will chime in here, they've got more knowledge about this stuff than me.

 

[Murphy Slaw]

In order.

TN moly
Organic Moly
Powdered moly in suspension.

Did anybody verify that PUP was TN ?

 

[Burla]

Not to my satisfaction. But if we get more ticks quieted by it, that should be all that matters.

 

[U&A]

deleted for the conspiracy theorists.

 

[GIJoe2010]

That's cool and all, but they're not really giving us much to go off of. Plus it's just another "ad" for big oil to try and lure us in.

 

[U&A]

That's cool and all, but they're not really giving us much to go off of. Plus it's just another "ad" for big oil to try and lure us in.

Yup, I inderstand. Still makes you wonder though.

 

[GIJoe2010]

Get yer snake oil!!! Get yer snake oil, HERE!!!

 

[U&A]

Wow..... ok.

 

[Burla]

Well maybe you weren't reading way back when we covered esters. Compressors and turbines really need modern esters. So that PR piece is kind of embarrassing, I kinda agree with GIjoe, but that is the way of the world these days. Not really snake oil, but not really something that is going to make you change your oil 1/3 of the time either. It is never the base oil that determines that, the additives are more responsible for long oil change intervals. And in an engine that is mechanically set to operate at 210F, esters are nothing more then a luxury. Whereas in compressors and turbines they are a necessity.
So dime to donuts they are just talking about esters, maybe the mixed a different alcohol with a different acid and came up with something they are going to call revolutionary. We wont see it an oil from exxon for the same reason why they took basically all of the group 4's and 5's out of the oil. The market wont support it, the market isn't evening supporting GtL PUP.