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I just got a used RAM 1500 and was doing some research on possible problems and came across this forum. This thread has some very useful information in it, and some very good posts. Though I haven't laughed this hard in my life. I don't mean to be unkind, but... wow!I have a friend who uses Amsoil 5W-30 in his 2011 Accord. I can't get over how beautiful that oil looks when he pours it into the engine. It's like liquid gold. He said that the color comes from the special anti wear additives and the pure 100% synthetic oil. It didn't look that thick to me. So I'm confused now, which Amsoil can I use so I don't CEL?
Man, read a Machinery Lubrication article once in a while.I won't touch 0W-40. I don't understand it.
Oh wow, that's literally truck diesel oil! I'm not gonna touch that stuff. I don't need to wreck my engine.
You mean Happy Boy Sunset isn't a real person who mostly only posts about Amsoil?I just got a used RAM 1500 and was doing some research on possible problems and came across this forum. This thread has some very useful information in it, and some very good posts. Though I haven't laughed this hard in my life. I don't mean to be unkind, but... wow!
"So I don't CEL?" - this is epic. Either this guy is a complete troll or he's never done any actual reading of how an engine works. Buddy, you go and buy that expensive "golden" oil now.
Man, read a Machinery Lubrication article once in a while.
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A couple of years ago I read and article on Business Insider titled "11 scientific reasons why attractive people are more successful in life".You mean Happy Boy Sunset isn't a real person who mostly only posts about Amsoil?
There are rules for additives, the rules are strict for 20 and 30 weights, most passenger cars. They consider 40 weight a heavy duty oil, so their rules are less stringent for the api. There is a large group that makes up 40 weight, any oil from 12.5 visc to 16.3. What most companies do is purposely build their oils right on the thin line 12.5, but amsoil is the exception they build it more to the thick line. Now, how 40 weight gain that 0 winter rating mostly is by adding viscosity index improvers, that when they break in use, the weight goes down. Thus those 40 weights in a very short time become 30 weights like 500 miles or even less, especially in 0 winter rating because they add a ton of vii's. Those oils built right on the thin line we call super class oils, you get extra additives you cant have in api 30 weights. Bottom line, if you can run a 30 weight, any of those 0w40's will do as a replacement, all you need to do is look at cSt viscosity, if it is near 13 then it will be a 30 weight in the sump most of the time. Amsoil 0w40 is more like a 5w40 or 15w40 because they really build it thick, not thin, opposite of super class 0w40 oils. Look up some viscosity on 0w40 stat sheets, you will understand. Now you understand 0w40 I'm sure of it.A couple of years ago I read and article on Business Insider titled "11 scientific reasons why attractive people are more successful in life".
I look like every other unattractive average guy in real life, I'm sure many of you here can relate. I thought of trying a good looking avatar for a change and see if it yields positive results.
I'm sorry if anyone got upset over this.
You mean Happy Boy Sunset isn't a real person who mostly only posts about Amsoil?
I don't know who designed the website, but HPL's Technical Director is this Dude, the author of this BookThank you very much for taking the time to help me. I won't touch 0W-40. I don't understand it. My friend Sam, who's a certified technician, says that it's for weird European engines. He says that the only one to use is the special SRT 0W-40, and only in the 6.2 and 6.4 Hemis. He probably knows what he's talking about. He's been doing this for a long time.
I have a friend who uses Amsoil 5W-30 in his 2011 Accord. I can't get over how beautiful that oil looks when he pours it into the engine. It's like liquid gold. He said that the color comes from the special anti wear additives and the pure 100% synthetic oil. It didn't look that thick to me. So I'm confused now, which Amsoil can I use so I don't CEL?
Oh wow, that's literally truck diesel oil! I'm not gonna touch that stuff. I don't need to wreck my engine. Thank you for the advice, you saved me from potentially making a catastrophic mistake. I saw Mobil 1 for Europeean vehicles 0W-40 on Rollback and wanted to buy that. Glad I didn't. Yep, Sam was right.
Oh Jesus, that's a scetchy looking website!
Thanks for nut making fun of me and helping me out. This might be hard to believe but I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this.There are rules for additives, the rules are strict for 20 and 30 weights, most passenger cars. They consider 40 weight a heavy duty oil, so their rules are less stringent for the api. There is a large group that makes up 40 weight, any oil from 12.5 visc to 16.3. What most companies do is purposely build their oils right on the thin line 12.5, but amsoil is the exception they build it more to the thick line. Now, how 40 weight gain that 0 winter rating mostly is by adding viscosity index improvers, that when they break in use, the weight goes down. Thus those 40 weights in a very short time become 30 weights like 500 miles or even less, especially in 0 winter rating because they add a ton of vii's. Those oils built right on the thin line we call super class oils, you get extra additives you cant have in api 30 weights. Bottom line, if you can run a 30 weight, any of those 0w40's will do as a replacement, all you need to do is look at cSt viscosity, if it is near 13 then it will be a 30 weight in the sump most of the time. Amsoil 0w40 is more like a 5w40 or 15w40 because they really build it thick, not thin, opposite of super class 0w40 oils. Look up some viscosity on 0w40 stat sheets, you will understand. Now you understand 0w40 I'm sure of it.
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Honestly that looks a lot better than I thought it would. I'd definitely run that in my truck.Redline API SP additive package...
@Burla @HEMIMANN @Hemi395
Heres a screenshot of the updates redline is employing for API SP in the 0w20 and 0w30 oils. We have been waiting a long time for these and the values are straight from dave granquest... time will tell with this major reformulation but so far atleast for 0w30 perhaps @HEMIMANN was right to buy all he could for the 6.4. Is it just me or does this almost look like valvoline extended protection?
My opinion so far is that its quite underwhelming? I expected a more stout additive package from redline. It seems lubegard could be added if anyone experiences anything negative from these 2 oils vs the SN version. HPL seems to be the better api sp option to me
Thanks man.Redline API SP additive package...
@Burla @HEMIMANN @Hemi395
Heres a screenshot of the updates redline is employing for API SP in the 0w20 and 0w30 oils. We have been waiting a long time for these and the values are straight from dave granquest... time will tell with this major reformulation but so far atleast for 0w30 perhaps @HEMIMANN was right to buy all he could for the 6.4. Is it just me or does this almost look like valvoline extended protection?
My opinion so far is that its quite underwhelming? I expected a more stout additive package from redline. It seems lubegard could be added if anyone experiences anything negative from these 2 oils vs the SN version. HPL seems to be the better api sp option to me
right on brother, me too. You posted just as I was typing we might have to twist your arm, lol.Honestly that looks a lot better than I thought it would. I'd definitely run that in my truck.
I guess i just expected more moly and more magnesium. No way to know the verdict until its ranHonestly that looks a lot better than I thought it would. I'd definitely run that in my truck.
I believe another email from dave was posted saying something along the lines of the phase in began 5 months ago. Now i guess we wait until the distributors move their SN product.If I don't see the SP upgraded in their website in a couple months, I will ask dave about if the new formula is already in the supply chain. Perhaps it is not all good, I would have proffered the moly to stay the same. I wonder if this will be to accommodate particular filters and di gas turbo's? Especially since those eco diesels out there like the 0w30.
agreed, I do believe it was trying to bring in those performance eco diesels into their formula. It might even be a foreign market move as these are falling out of favor in usa.I guess i just expected more moly and more magnesium. No way to know the verdict until its ran
A little more bad news there only for 0w30, visc drops to 10.8 hths to 3.3, so yeah for hemi tick I wouldnt think this is built the same as old formula, however for piston slap it should even be better. We wont know til we try it in c couple hemi tick engines. However, the most depressing thing I see take a guess, look at those pour points? wtf? Corey if those are correct lets talk before trying it.Impressive noack across the board to say the least