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Would that be the cruise control that cancels when you tap the brake?

I use cruise control everywhere, provided the road surface isn't slippery with snow or ice.
I haven't heard any stories of the OE cc going crazy.
We could also blame the 5G cell towers and satellite internet. :cool:

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It's nothing like blaming cell phone towers. Think about it. All the wires for the cruise control go through the clock spring. If one of them breaks, who knows what could happen if there's an intermittent connection. It's a useless feature to me.
 

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Would that be the cruise control that cancels when you tap the brake?

I use cruise control everywhere, provided the road surface isn't slippery with snow or ice.
I haven't heard any stories of the OE cc going crazy.
We could also blame the 5G cell towers and satellite internet. :cool:

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Referencing CC, late one snowy night while driving home from work on an empty interstate I decided to try the safety/wit/wisdom of CC in the snow.

First time was with my 2008 Civic. Before I could detect any wheel spin at all
I saw the CC light turn OFF on the dashboard and my Civic began to slow down, no longer under power.

I tried it again the next year with my '14 1500 Ram, once in 2wd, again in 4-Auto and 4-Lock. Same. CC turned off before I could detect anything wrong.

While I cannot for the life of me understand why one would choose to engage cruise control under poor road conditions, and agree it is inherently unsafe to do. As for me, I enjoy the opportunity to go sideways in a snow storm, so long as I get to choose the place and time. :emotions33:
 

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Hello all. Am needing assistance. Bought new 2024 Ram 2500 Laramie. Have had 2 uncontrolled automatic full throttle accelerations while sitting completely stopped. First happened September 15, 2025 and pushed me into an intersection - all while I had my foot continually on the brake. Called and took immediately to dealer. They tested and said ‘it didn’t throw a code”. I said it still redlined and systematically kept pushing me. They kept for couple days and replaced the throttle body. Thought was fixed and Dec 5, 2025 happened again. (Pulled to the shoulder to recheck my route before entering the interstate.) While sitting still it again redlined and started pushing me down the embankment. I flipped it to park and shut it off. Immediately called dealer and took it back in. Same response. They said it hadn’t thrown a code so nothing they could do and I needed to contact Ram. I’ve been trying but making little progress. Keep calling the customer service number dealership gave me. Get assigned a case number, and ‘case specialist’ supposed to call me back in 1 business day; and no response. Also filed with Nat’l Traffic Safety Admin but heard nothing back.

I’m really concerned it will happen again - happened twice in less than 90 days. Been so lucky was not in heavy traffic, or on the move first two times. If I’m hauling cattle or equipment it could be catastrophic. Any information greatly appreciated. Thank you.
This happened to my 2025 Laramie. Was stopping behind a car at a traffic light when my RAM accelerated into the back of that car. Stellantis sent an Inspector to download my truck's Data Log. They only downloaded the Airbag Control Module data, which showed nothing. Not surprising, since no airbags were deployed! It was a low-speed crash, but cost me $5,000 out-of-pocket to fix both vehicles (to avoid insurance rate increase).
 

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I can not stay quiet any longer. To ALL the people who use two feet to operate a vehicle with an automatic transmission someone needs to instruct you on how to operate a vehicle safely. Using your left foot for braking is just simply INANE! I do not know of any driving instructor professional or not who would teach or advocate such usage. Proper instruction for slowing down or stopping a moving vehicle would be to remove your RIGHT foot from the accelerator and then use your RIGHT foot to apply braking force to slow or stop the vehicle. Only exception to this procedure would be if the operator had only one left foot.
Southpaws operate a bit differantly,and the majority of the lefties i know,use their left foot to brake.I had this discussion several years ago with a couple driving instructors,and they both finally admitted that theory sucks hind tit for anybody who's left handed.I happen to be left handed and think you're out to lunch,just saying;) .Also how in hell are you gonna do a brake stand with out using both feet:Big Laugh:
 

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I can not stay quiet any longer. To ALL the people who use two feet to operate a vehicle with an automatic transmission someone needs to instruct you on how to operate a vehicle safely. Using your left foot for braking is just simply INANE! I do not know of any driving instructor professional or not who would teach or advocate such usage. Proper instruction for slowing down or stopping a moving vehicle would be to remove your RIGHT foot from the accelerator and then use your RIGHT foot to apply braking force to slow or stop the vehicle. Only exception to this procedure would be if the operator had only one left foot.

I only have one left foot.

*double checking*

Yep. One left foot, one right foot. You don't know my struggles. :emotions33:
 

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Hello all. Am needing assistance. Bought new 2024 Ram 2500 Laramie. Have had 2 uncontrolled automatic full throttle accelerations while sitting completely stopped. First happened September 15, 2025 and pushed me into an intersection - all while I had my foot continually on the brake. Called and took immediately to dealer. They tested and said ‘it didn’t throw a code”. I said it still redlined and systematically kept pushing me. They kept for couple days and replaced the throttle body. Thought was fixed and Dec 5, 2025 happened again. (Pulled to the shoulder to recheck my route before entering the interstate.) While sitting still it again redlined and started pushing me down the embankment. I flipped it to park and shut it off. Immediately called dealer and took it back in. Same response. They said it hadn’t thrown a code so nothing they could do and I needed to contact Ram. I’ve been trying but making little progress. Keep calling the customer service number dealership gave me. Get assigned a case number, and ‘case specialist’ supposed to call me back in 1 business day; and no response. Also filed with Nat’l Traffic Safety Admin but heard nothing back.

I’m really concerned it will happen again - happened twice in less than 90 days. Been so lucky was not in heavy traffic, or on the move first two times. If I’m hauling cattle or equipment it could be catastrophic. Any information greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I've experienced it 4-5 times, twice turning right with foot on brake into parking spot, once jumped curb, bent rim etc... color me P*SSED!
 

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This happened to my 2025 Laramie. Was stopping behind a car at a traffic light when my RAM accelerated into the back of that car. Stellantis sent an Inspector to download my truck's Data Log. They only downloaded the Airbag Control Module data, which showed nothing. Not surprising, since no airbags were deployed! It was a low-speed crash, but cost me $5,000 out-of-pocket to fix both vehicles (to avoid insurance rate increase).
Maybe it's just me, but I sure wouldn't have accepted that. Ram would be paying for it. Does this seem to be happening more in later model Rams?
 

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It's nothing like blaming cell phone towers. Think about it. All the wires for the cruise control go through the clock spring. If one of them breaks, who knows what could happen if there's an intermittent connection. It's a useless feature to me.

The only wires in the steering column are the on/off and the set cruise speed. Cruise doesn't even work below a certain speed, usually around 20-30mph. All the decisions are made in the ECU, including the brake override. If a wire breaks, you'll just have a dead button.
 

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I can not stay quiet any longer. To ALL the people who use two feet to operate a vehicle with an automatic transmission someone needs to instruct you on how to operate a vehicle safely. Using your left foot for braking is just simply INANE! I do not know of any driving instructor professional or not who would teach or advocate such usage. Proper instruction for slowing down or stopping a moving vehicle would be to remove your RIGHT foot from the accelerator and then use your RIGHT foot to apply braking force to slow or stop the vehicle. Only exception to this procedure would be if the operator had only one left foot.
Did I miss something? Don't remember seeing anyone say they drove using both feet,but I may not have read every single post. Only ever used 2 feet driving stick and now on my bike for shifting and rear brake.
 

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The only wires in the steering column are the on/off and the set cruise speed. Cruise doesn't even work below a certain speed, usually around 20-30mph. All the decisions are made in the ECU, including the brake override. If a wire breaks, you'll just have a dead button.
I did some searching and there's a lot of reports of this in various forums. A lot of people mention the throttle control unit (TCU) being at fault. Some did mention issues with cruise control, or adaptive cruise control. Is the spacing the same on all Ram brake/accelerator pedals? I checked mine and if I have the middle of my right foot on the right edge of the brake pedal, I'm still 2" away from the accelerator. Size 10 shoes.
 

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Yeah, I don’t buy it OP. Same thing was claimed by some Audi drivers in the 80s. Turned out to be driver error. No fault with the vehicles.
 

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Yeah, I don’t buy it OP. Same thing was claimed by some Audi drivers in the 80s. Turned out to be driver error. No fault with the vehicles.
In the case of those Audis it was because the pedals were much closer together than they typically are in American cars. There's plenty of separation in the Rams. Not saying this couldn't be user error as well, but I kind of doubt it, from many of the accounts I've read.
 

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I did some searching and there's a lot of reports of this in various forums. A lot of people mention the throttle control unit (TCU) being at fault. Some did mention issues with cruise control, or adaptive cruise control. Is the spacing the same on all Ram brake/accelerator pedals? I checked mine and if I have the middle of my right foot on the right edge of the brake pedal, I'm still 2" away from the accelerator. Size 10 shoes.

Cruise, adaptive or not, still shuts off when you hit the brake. For cruise to be the issue, you'd need to have multiple faults from multiple systems and the ECU also fault to not notice disparities. That's probably somewhere between getting hit by a meteor and winning Power Ball twice in a row on the probability scale.

Throttle control, maybe, but you'd still need two faults at minimum. We know there are at least some level of checks between pedal position and throttle position because some of the aftermarket doodads that alter the pedal position sensor can throw codes. I don't know enough to say how robust those redundancies are, though, or if there are other checks in place.

Now, with Atlantis High and all the glitches, there's a non-zero chance it's some massive screw up in the software. Hell, maybe it's setting idle RPM to 5500 if a certain set of parameters is being hit due to some spaghetti code somewhere. Still more likely it's a physical cause, a boot edge or a floor mat explains the vast majority of these...but that doesn't mean it explains them all.
 

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It's nothing like blaming cell phone towers. Think about it. All the wires for the cruise control go through the clock spring. If one of them breaks, who knows what could happen if there's an intermittent connection. It's a useless feature to me.

I think you're grasping at straws, and the 5G cell towers are as likely to be at fault as the wiring in the steering column or clockspring. :cool:

Up until I read post #148, I was almost convinced this was an Atlantis High mystery.
We will have to wait for confirmation from SouthernBornRebel on the year of their ride.

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Cruise, adaptive or not, still shuts off when you hit the brake. For cruise to be the issue, you'd need to have multiple faults from multiple systems and the ECU also fault to not notice disparities. That's probably somewhere between getting hit by a meteor and winning Power Ball twice in a row on the probability scale.

Throttle control, maybe, but you'd still need two faults at minimum. We know there are at least some level of checks between pedal position and throttle position because some of the aftermarket doodads that alter the pedal position sensor can throw codes. I don't know enough to say how robust those redundancies are, though, or if there are other checks in place.

Now, with Atlantis High and all the glitches, there's a non-zero chance it's some massive screw up in the software. Hell, maybe it's setting idle RPM to 5500 if a certain set of parameters is being hit due to some spaghetti code somewhere. Still more likely it's a physical cause, a boot edge or a floor mat explains the vast majority of these...but that doesn't mean it explains them all.
The CC brake switch could fail as well. I have no idea what Atlantis High is, looked it up and I guess it was some kooky TV show.

Given the wide spacing of the RAM pedals, and the way I've heard the stories described, just hard to think this was user error, but we'll see.
 

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The CC brake switch could fail as well. I have no idea what Atlantis High is, looked it up and I guess it was some kooky TV show.

Given the wide spacing of the RAM pedals, and the way I've heard the stories described, just hard to think this was user error, but we'll see.
Anything that'll throw a code or check engine light will shut off the cruise control
 

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The CC brake switch could fail as well. I have no idea what Atlantis High is, looked it up and I guess it was some kooky TV show.

Given the wide spacing of the RAM pedals, and the way I've heard the stories described, just hard to think this was user error, but we'll see.

Atlantis High (or just Atlantis) is the current electrical architecture for Ram as of 2025. It replaced Power Net. Think of taking all your software from an Apple and translating it over to an Android and that's sort of what they had to do.

As for the brake switch, sure, that's why I said "For cruise to be the issue, you'd need to have multiple faults from multiple systems and the ECU also fault to not notice disparities." Exceedingly unlikely for all those systems to fail simultaneously to:

1a) Turn on cruise by itself
-------1b) set to a high speed
2) Ignore the fact cruise isn't enabled at low speeds
3) If adaptive is present, it fails to register the likely collision
4) The cruise to not notice the brake is applied
5) The ECU to not notice *any* of these faults

That's like catching Bigfoot kissing the Tooth Fairy.

(edited for formatting, spaces just disappear if you don't add hyphens at the beginning of a line for some reason.)
 
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