Well done Ram! Rumble Bee on the way.

[Wild one]

It may be more advantageous in some situations, but to me, it also adds more weight, more complexity, and increases maintenance.

Besides, I rather like sitting and spinning!

Spinning Ain't Winning

 

[Docwagon1776]

It may be more advantageous in some situations, but to me, it also adds more weight, more complexity, and increases maintenance.

Besides, I rather like sitting and spinning!

I've driven 4x4 vehicles from model years 1971 to 2021 and have yet to find the maintenance burdensome, the 100-ish lbs to matter in the slightest, or the complexity to be noticeable. I've busted one transfer case, and that was after years of work loads well outside of intended specs in a nearly 25 year old truck.

I get not *needing* it but I think your complaints about it a pretty marginal for real world use with it vs a 2wd.

Spinning Ain't Winning

Especially in a street truck, which has to overcome the weight distribution that is part of why sports trucks are inherently stupid. Stupid can be fun, not knocking it, but as I'm sure you'd agree you're taking a very square peg trying to get it in a really round hole when you start with a truck vs a sedan or coupe and try to make a road course worthy vehicle or a hard launching dragster.

 

[Tray Burge]

Stupid can be fun, not knocking it, but as I'm sure you'd agree you're taking a very square peg trying to get it in a really round hole when you start with a truck vs...

But, Stupid and Fun IS the concept of a muscle truck though?
No sedan will ever look this sexy from the rear. lol

 

[Lsujker]

Y'all quit using the phase "parts bin". You are only diminishing what the engineers at Ram have done. You ever seen a quad cab with short bed? NO. I'm sure the TRX suspension was heavily modified to get it that low. They finally gave us the 392. The parts they did bring over from the BIN are all well received. I tip my hat.

I'm sure the quad cab alone presented some problems ether in design or an OH CRAP afterwards. You know RAM wanted a luxury interior but don't currently make niceties for the smaller cap.

 

[Docwagon1776]

But, Stupid and Fun IS the concept of a muscle truck though?

Exactly what I said.

Y'all quit using the phase "parts bin". You are only diminishing what the engineers at Ram have done. You ever seen a quad cab with short bed? NO. I'm sure the TRX suspension was heavily modified to get it that low. They finally gave us the 392. The parts they did bring over from the BIN are all well received. I tip my hat.

I'm sure the quad cab alone presented some problems ether in design or an OH CRAP afterwards. You know RAM wanted a luxury interior but don't currently make niceties for the smaller cap.

They didn't start with a TRX's long travel suspension and then lower it, that'd be silly. It's the air ride suspension with some shorter springs more than likely.

There's some new pieces. The frame, at least. There's nothing unique about the quad cab vs the crew cab that makes fitting the luxury interior in problematic. The only reason they didn't before was to upsell you. Same reason Ford won't put ventilated seats in the Ranger. It's a marketing decision, not an engineering challenge.

It *is* mostly a parts bin truck. That's not only fine, it's smart. Cheaper to build, cheaper to own, better for long term ownership (and crash repair) if the parts aren't model specific.

This isn't an engineering achievement, it's a corporate philosophy one. A good one.

 

[GeauxinUp]

Y'all quit using the phase "parts bin". You are only diminishing what the engineers at Ram have done. You ever seen a quad cab with short bed? NO. I'm sure the TRX suspension was heavily modified to get it that low. They finally gave us the 392. The parts they did bring over from the BIN are all well received. I tip my hat.

I'm sure the quad cab alone presented some problems ether in design or an OH CRAP afterwards. You know RAM wanted a luxury interior but don't currently make niceties for the smaller cap.

Let me know when you buy that s/c 6.2 so I can come down and ride in it!

 

[mikeru]

Exactly what I said.



They didn't start with a TRX's long travel suspension and then lower it, that'd be silly. It's the air ride suspension with some shorter springs more than likely.

There's some new pieces. The frame, at least. There's nothing unique about the quad cab vs the crew cab that makes fitting the luxury interior in problematic. The only reason they didn't before was to upsell you. Same reason Ford won't put ventilated seats in the Ranger. It's a marketing decision, not an engineering challenge.

It *is* mostly a parts bin truck. That's not only fine, it's smart. Cheaper to build, cheaper to own, better for long term ownership (and crash repair) if the parts aren't model specific.

This isn't an engineering achievement, it's a corporate philosophy one. A good one.

At the very least they'd need longer control arms because of the wide body. There definitely had to be some engineering involved with the suspension.

Y'all quit using the phase "parts bin". You are only diminishing what the engineers at Ram have done. You ever seen a quad cab with short bed? NO. I'm sure the TRX suspension was heavily modified to get it that low. They finally gave us the 392. The parts they did bring over from the BIN are all well received. I tip my hat.

I'm sure the quad cab alone presented some problems ether in design or an OH CRAP afterwards. You know RAM wanted a luxury interior but don't currently make niceties for the smaller cap.

I don't see the term parts bin as derogatory. Like others have said, it's a smart way of doing something like this if done right. If they just cobbed a bunch of existing parts together to get a product out the door, well, that's another story.

 

[Wild one]

At the very least they'd need longer control arms because of the wide body. There definitely had to be some engineering involved with the suspension.


I don't see the term parts bin as derogatory. Like others have said, it's a smart way of doing something like this if done right. If they just cobbed a bunch of existing parts together to get a product out the door, well, that's another story.

I wonder if they didn't offset the wide body stance with the tires and rims,instead of the control arms.It does carry the widest tires Ma Mopars ever used excluding the Viper,as the tires are even wider then what's on a wide body Hellcat

 

[DILLIGAF]

Y'all quit using the phase "parts bin". You are only diminishing what the engineers at Ram have done.

Tons of guys have built 6.4 1500s in their backyard. This isnt an engineering marvel at all.

There's way cooler trucks builds on the HiPo Ram FB page built for less money.

Im looking forward to the parts diagrams to show up and see what I can use on my ch!tbox.

 

[mikeru]

I wonder if they didn't offset the wide body stance with the tires and rims,instead of the control arms.It does carry the widest tires Ma Mopars ever used excluding the Viper,as the tires are even wider then what's on a wide body Hellcat

Maybe, but only the SRT comes with those 12 inch tires. The other two models will have narrower tires. I certainly hope they aren't making up that 6 inch difference with wheel offset on the base model. We know that all three models will have different suspensions though, so until we actually see them all we can do is speculate on how they achieve that width.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Maybe, but only the SRT comes with those 12 inch tires. The other two models will have narrower tires. I certainly hope they aren't making up that 6 inch difference with wheel offset on the base model. We know that all three models will have different suspensions though, so until we actually see them all we can do is speculate on how they achieve that width.

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At about 14:50 he looks at the chassis without a body on it. You can see the suspension there, but I am not well versed enough to know what's samey-same with this air suspension vs the "normal" one. The video guy never talks about it, either.

Brake venting is smart, though, that's something they had to figure out on the early police package Chargers because brake fade was really bad on them.

 

[Wild one]

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At about 14:50 he looks at the chassis without a body on it. You can see the suspension there, but I am not well versed enough to know what's samey-same with this air suspension vs the "normal" one. The video guy never talks about it, either.

Brake venting is smart, though, that's something they had to figure out on the early police package Chargers because brake fade was really bad on them.

The spindles look differant,but to my eyes the upper and lower control arms look alot like what the 5th Gens use.They could shove the tires out with a differant spindle offset,which would also probably give them a better set-up to fit the big brakes onto the front

 

[tones2SS]

They finally gave us the 392.

Exactly!!!
I really like the 392 truck. I really, really like the SRT truck, but let's be realistic here,...I'm not gonna be able to afford that. Lots of people are not gonna be able to afford that. Even the 392 truck will be up there in price. I'm guessing 70 - 80k for a nicely optioned truck. Hopefully the 392 doesn't have MDS. (Cue in the MDS nut swingers. LOLZ)

**Definitely DO NOT want the side graphics though. I hope that's an option.
LOL

 

[mikeru]

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At about 14:50 he looks at the chassis without a body on it. You can see the suspension there, but I am not well versed enough to know what's samey-same with this air suspension vs the "normal" one. The video guy never talks about it, either.

Brake venting is smart, though, that's something they had to figure out on the early police package Chargers because brake fade was really bad on them.

The spindles look differant,but to my eyes the upper and lower control arms look alot like what the 5th Gens use.They could shove the tires out with a differant spindle offset,which would also probably give them a better set-up to fit the big brakes onto the front

It looks very similar to the air suspension on my Limited, but in a video it's hard to tell if they are the same components or not.

 

[Marshall]

Those look bad@$$. I'd be all over one of the supercharged one's if they were going to be south of $90k

not a chance of that .

 

[Mojo88]

Those look bad@$$. I'd be all over one of the supercharged one's if they were going to be south of $90k

Gotta be North of $100k is my guess.

Think that's bad? Take a peek at a new Shelby Ford F150, they 'start' at $139,995!

 

[Mojo88]

Exactly!!!
I really like the 392 truck. I really, really like the SRT truck, but let's be realistic here,...I'm not gonna be able to afford that. Lots of people are not gonna be able to afford that. Even the 392 truck will be up there in price. I'm guessing 70 - 80k for a nicely optioned truck. Hopefully the 392 doesn't have MDS. (Cue in the MDS nut swingers. LOLZ)

**Definitely DO NOT want the side graphics though. I hope that's an option.
LOL

Totally concur. That red was the one for me (exterior looks-wise). Horrid graphic, otherwise all else is spot on. Interior is just so-so. It'll be interesting to see what different options are available for colors, wheels, interiors and all the other goodies.......

 

[Wild one]

Hopefully the 392 doesn't have MDS. (Cue in the MDS nut swingers. LOLZ)

Highly doubt the 392 will be MDS deleted,as they only make the 5.7 / 6.4 6 speed Challengers and Hellcats as MDS delete.These are all automatics so i'm guessing only the SRT version with the Hellcats 6.2 will be MDS delete.
It'd be nice if both the 5.7 and 6.4 versions were factory MDS deleted,but i think the odds of that happening are mighty long odds

 

[Docwagon1776]

Gotta be North of $100k is my guess.

Think that's bad? Take a peek at a new Shelby Ford F150, they 'start' at $139,995!

Well, sure it's really expensive but at least it has terrible resale value.

 

[Mojo88]

Well, sure it's really expensive but at least it has terrible resale value.

My guess is the Rumble Bee would suffer a similar fate, but you never know.