Cam/Lifter Failure

[frankmm2]

So I took my 2013 Ram (112k miles) into the dealer and they diagnosis my Cylinder 3 misfire as needing the Cam and lifters replaced. So my question is for people that have had this issue. My CEL light only comes on under load then it goes off. The engine misfires bad over 4k RPM. Is this the common symptom for this issue or should I try some other areas before tearing into the motor

 

[Burla]

Very common issue, search hemi tick whether you had it or not. In you don't mind what oil brand and interval were you on? Also did you stick with 5w20? Sorry fr your troubles, if you know the cylinder you can swap a plug, but it is a very very common occurance and a weaknesses with the ram hemi. The other forum has documented this for years.

 

[Wild one]

So I took my 2013 Ram (112k miles) into the dealer and they diagnosis my Cylinder 3 misfire as needing the Cam and lifters replaced. So my question is for people that have had this issue. My CEL light only comes on under load then it goes off. The engine misfires bad over 4k RPM. Is this the common symptom for this issue or should I try some other areas before tearing into the motor

It's probably wise to stop driving it ,till you replace the cam/lifters etc. If the dealer diagnosed it as cam/lifter failure,they are probably right,and you'll want to replace the cam and lifters before driving it farther.

Read Kurtis's excellent How-to on cam swapping the VVT 4th Gen Hemi's.The swap isn't hard,just time consuming.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/how-to-4th-gen-hemi-cam-installation.82531/

 

[frankmm2]

@Burla It has been serviced exclusively by the dealership for all 112k miles not sure what brand oil they typically use.

@Wild one I try to limit driving it but having 4 kiddos to run around it's hard to be a one vehicle family right now. I was hoping there might be another thing to try besides spark plug and coil pack being bad....well time for some goodies from HHP or Moes

 

[frankmm2]

Here is my camshaft. Probably seen better days

 

[Firebird]

This is why I run Redline 5w30 in my 5.7
Good luck with your repairs, I hope they take good care of you

 

[HammerHead]

Here is my camshaft. Probably seen better days

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Here we go again, yet another lifter failure that ate the cam. Sorry for your troubles, that really sucks. Guy on YouTube replaced his lifters with Hellcat lifters, his name is Frostbite Ram. Worth watching his videos is you want to upgrade.

 

[frankmm2]

Here we go again, yet another lifter failure that ate the cam. Sorry for your troubles, that really sucks. Guy on YouTube replaced his lifters with Hellcat lifters, his name is Frostbite Ram. Worth watching his videos is you want to upgrade.

 

[frankmm2]

I ordered a cam package from HHP and got it installed this weekend. Working through the fine tuning now.

 

[HammerHead]

I ordered a cam package from HHP and got it installed this weekend. Working through the fine tuning now.

Sweet! Hope she runs strong for you for many years. What lifters did you go with?

 

[Tim Garceau]

What Cam model did you install and who is doing the tuning?

 

[frankmm2]

What Cam model did you install and who is doing the tuning?

I got the comp 266 package from HHP with the email tuning. While I had it apart I also put on Stainless Works long tube headers and changed the pushrods. If I have to do it again I am paying someone....lol

 

[xeriminox]

Will be watching with interest...

 

[Tim Garceau]

Was planning on a future 260ish to improve midrange torque, let us know how you compare to stock cam. Although with long-tubes you took a huge leap doing the combo!

 

[crackerjack1957]

Tear down for Greene cam, stock cam & lifters still look good at 75k with Mobile 1 5w-30 & Mobile 1 filter.
Ram had 36k on it before I owned so not sure what oil & filter was on before.
No broken exhaust manifold bolts or studs either.

 

[frankmm2]

Tear down for Green cam, stock cam & lifters still look good at 75k with Mobile 1 5w-30 & Mobile 1 filter.
Ram had 36k on it before I owned so not sure what oil & filter was on before.
No broken exhaust manifold bolts or studs either.

To top it off ....I had 3 exhaust manifold bolts broken. Royal PITA

 

[Hemi832]

Mine did not do any misfiring or anything, just heard a metallic tick for a couple days before it went to the dealer. They replaced all lifters and camshaft.

 

[madtrucker2016]

Ram knows about this common problem its all the blame on the ****** lifters they use its a shame a brand as Ram does not fix this for free

 

[indept]

FYI, you should get a ford because they are so much better than Ram, just watch this to see how much better they are:

 

[TXCOMT]

FYI, you should get a ford because they are so much better than ram, just watch this to see how much better they are:

Pretty informative video! Had to wonder, though, if that Lincoln was even worth repairing...oh, well.

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