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[bm02tj]

If FCA makes a mistake in design they will not look at the problem as

Quote (The vehicle oerates as per FCA specifications and no repairs are required )

The management blocks all access by saying go to dealer and dealer says per FCA specifications

The general manager of my local dealership is trying to get the problem looked at and told me
if enough people complain south of the border maybe they will fix

Like they say you can not fix stupid

 

[IRSmart]

Solid post, will read again.

 

[Riccochet]

I'm gonna go complain


not sure about what, yet


but, dammit, I'm takin my wife Karen with me to speak with the manager

 

[avantiguy]

So what's the problem you are dealing with?

 

[Wild one]

So what's the problem you are dealing with?

He's been whining about his truck racing downhill when he leaves his driveway and the truck is cold.This isn't the first time he's put up one of these stupid posts where he doesn't say what his issue is,till the thread has carried on for awhile.Search his name and you'll find his other threads,not sure what he figures he's accomplishing with these posts,but he's always wanting everybody to ***** at FCA over an issue the majority of us don't have,as most of us will wait till the truck is warmed up and comes off high idle,especially if we live on top of a hill in a residential neighbourhood.I think he should move to Saskatchewan where there's no hills,lol.

 

[chrisbh17]

He's been whining about his truck racing downhill when he leaves his driveway and the truck is cold.This isn't the first time he's put up one of these stupid posts where he doesn't say what his issue is,till the thread has carried on for awhile.Search his name and you'll find his other threads,not sure what he figures he's accomplishing with these posts,but he's always wanting everybody to ***** at FCA over an issue the majority of us don't have,as most of us will wait till the truck is warmed up and comes off high idle,especially if we live on top of a hill in a residential neighbourhood.I think he should move to Saskatchewan where there's no hills,lol.

Or maybe even Texas where there are no hills AND no cold.

 

[avantiguy]

He's been whining about his truck racing downhill when he leaves his driveway and the truck is cold.This isn't the first time he's put up one of these stupid posts where he doesn't say what his issue is,till the thread has carried on for awhile.Search his name and you'll find his other threads,not sure what he figures he's accomplishing with these posts,but he's always wanting everybody to ***** at FCA over an issue the majority of us don't have,as most of us will wait till the truck is warmed up and comes off high idle,especially if we live on top of a hill in a residential neighbourhood.I think he should move to Saskatchewan where there's no hills,lol.

Thanks for the update, Yup! sounds like he needs to let it warm up or just shift down a couple of gears. 14 F when I left the house this AM and my 19 kicked off real high idle in well under a minute. I know 'cause I let it do it.

 

[kurek]

If FCA makes a mistake in design they will not look at the problem as

Quote (The vehicle oerates as per FCA specifications and no repairs are required )

The management blocks all access by saying go to dealer and dealer says per FCA specifications

The general manager of my local dealership is trying to get the problem looked at and told me
if enough people complain south of the border maybe they will fix

Sorry to hear you've been having trouble, I know people can often be unsympathetic when somebody's dealing with a lemon. I hope you're able to get it sorted, FCA was terrible to deal with when they sold me a lemon Jeep and I won't be buying from them or advising them to anyone else as a result of that experience.

 

[Tach_tech]

Sorry to hear you've been having trouble, I know people can often be unsympathetic when somebody's dealing with a lemon. I hope you're able to get it sorted, FCA was terrible to deal with when they sold me a lemon Jeep and I won't be buying from them or advising them to anyone else as a result of that experience.

He’s not dealing with a lemon though. It’s a very specific scenario that has to be carried out in order for it to occur. The issue can be rectified very easily he just doesn’t like that answer and wants FCA to change their programming to fit this “issue”.

There’s not a snowball chance in hell that anything gets done with it. I’ve seen much more common customer complaints/issues that FCA is aware of yet there is never a fix.

 

[pacofortacos]

I agree, just costs too much to fix an issue that is easily fixable via the driver.

It is very expensive to get a PCM flash okayed through the EPA (US vehicles).

 

[bm02tj]

What I would like is a simply fix for FCA and only affects a small number of people
but the fact that they block any communication to some one that can correct this and
say see your dealer and they answer that is the way FCA designed so suck it up
If I get someone to add to the program they can and probably will void my warranty

We need a forum to list items that can be addressed for every one to try on there truck
like the gas fill problem ( I will be checking that closely and if mine could have a problem a will
work at the repair ) if every one does this they will take notice and do something about it

Or you can be a mushroom and put up with the BS

Yes not all of you live on top of a hill and no I will not start my truck and idle for 5 minutes first
as we all know the best thing for your truck is to start and when you have oil pressure drive slowly
not go down a hill in second gear with the motor at 4700 RPM then have it just about put you into the wheel
when it decides to remove the throttle like I slammed on the brakes

So either try it and see what I am talking about and complain to your dealer or not

Also try other members complains if you can see there point talk to your dealer

Like they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease but we need more input

And if you are one of those that looks the other way and tells your self some one else will do it
please ignore this

Rant over

 

[Wild one]

What I would like is a simply fix for FCA and only affects a small number of people
but the fact that they block any communication to some one that can correct this and
say see your dealer and they answer that is the way FCA designed so suck it up
If I get someone to add to the program they can and probably will void my warranty

We need a forum to list items that can be addressed for every one to try on there truck
like the gas fill problem ( I will be checking that closely and if mine could have a problem a will
work at the repair ) if every one does this they will take notice and do something about it

Or you can be a mushroom and put up with the BS

Yes not all of you live on top of a hill and no I will not start my truck and idle for 5 minutes first
as we all know the best thing for your truck is to start and when you have oil pressure drive slowly
not go down a hill in second gear with the motor at 4700 RPM then have it just about put you into the wheel
when it decides to remove the throttle like I slammed on the brakes

So either try it and see what I am talking about and complain to your dealer or not

Also try other members complains if you can see there point talk to your dealer

Like they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease but we need more input

And if you are one of those that looks the other way and tells your self some one else will do it
please ignore this

Rant over

You're not going to accomplish a damn thing with your rants,except have a dealer red flag you,and then you will be screwed. If you don't like it going downhill to fast in 3rd when it's cold,and you think 4500+ rpm in 2nd is to much,your only other options are to let it warm up longer / plug in the block heater even when it's semi warm so the motor is warmer on start-up,or else kick it into neautral and ride the brakes down the hill. Why in hell are you starting another thread on this,you already have 2 prior threads about your issues with FCA ignoring you. It'd be easier for you to move to the bottom of the hill then it will be to get FCA to change the programming ,lol

 

[bm02tj]

You're not going to accomplish a damn thing with your rants,except have a dealer red flag you,and then you will be screwed. If you don't like it going downhill to fast in 3rd when it's cold,and you think 4500+ rpm in 2nd is to much,your only other options are to let it warm up longer / plug in the block heater even when it's semi warm so the motor is warmer on start-up,or else kick it into neautral and ride the brakes down the hill. Why in hell are you starting another thread on this,you already have 2 prior threads about your issues with FCA ignoring you. It'd be easier for you to move to the bottom of the hill then it will be to get FCA to change the programming ,lol

That is the problem too many people accept what they are given
If you are not willing to stand up for your rights so be it but
do not tell me I need to accept what can be fixed and so easily

 

[Tach_tech]

That is the problem too many people accept what they are given
If you are not willing to stand up for your rights so be it but
do not tell me I need to accept what can be fixed and so easily

What makes you think it’s so easy to change? You think all they have to do is press a couple buttons for 5 minutes and it’s magically fixed?

That’s not how software programming works, it needs to be developed,tested,approved, go through all the appropriate channels before it’s released. There’s also going to be way more important software related issues that require attention before this would ever see the light of day.

This is also hardly an infringement on your rights that you need to get up on a soap box and make your stand.

State your piece wth Chrysler, stay in touch with your dealer and move on with your life.

 

[Wild one]

That is the problem too many people accept what they are given
If you are not willing to stand up for your rights so be it but
do not tell me I need to accept what can be fixed and so easily

You're not getting it are you,the majority of owners don't have an issue with the way the trucks are programmed,on your 3 threads already,how many guys have said they have the same issues as you,i'm to lazy to hunt up your other threads,but if I remember right it was "none" ,so that means you're in a very small niche market of owners with the same issue,so even if you find 50 or 100 other owners to yell at FCA,you still aren't going to change anything.The programming your up against is done more for emissions then anything else,and the EPA definitely carries more weight then you when it comes to dictating what emissions standards a manufacture'r has to meet. Personally I think your barking up a tree with nobody in it,so you'll either have to live with the issue,or change your driving habits to compensate.Try plugging the block heater in and see if it makes any difference if you start out with an engine with a little more heat in it,if that makes a difference ,maybe you'll have to suck up the power bill increase and plug it in,seeing as how you're not willing to let it idle long enough to warm up to where it doesn't push you down the hill in 3rd when cold.
Good luck with your rants,but seeing as how this is your 3rd thread on the matter and you didn't get any sympathy on the first 2 threads,i highly doubt you're going to get much sympathy on this thread either.
Get over being a stubborn fool and let the truck warm up more is all I can say.
To me you're very set in your ways at what 68 years of age,and are a bit on the stubborn side,FYI good chance the truck is more stubborn then you,so you either adapt to it and learn to live with it,or quit driving it ,lol

 

[Firetruck41]

FCA isn't going to reprogram the ECM and have to go through the EPA certification proccess for one person (or a thousand) who don't like how their truck warms up. If it is easy to fix, then do it, instead of spamming the forum for the same issue, with multiple threads.

 

[pacofortacos]

Years ago it was over a million $ to get an EPA approved flash, I can't imagine it has gotten any less expensive.

It isn't just on the auto side, it's well over a million $ to get anything through the FDA for medical purposes - welcome to an all powerful gov. that has to give it's stamp of approval. Note: not saying a stamp of approval is a bad thing, just think it can be done more efficiently and cost effectively.

 

[Saskwatch]

I read something about Saskatchewan, lack of hills and cold weather so I thought I’d add my 2cents. That converts to negative equity in USD.

 

[Hemi832]

Or maybe even Texas where there are no hills AND no cold.

Hey its "55" in Houston!

 

[gofishn]

I'm gonna go complain


not sure about what, yet


but, dammit, I'm takin my wife Karen with me to speak with the manager

Karen?
K A R E N ??

Gawd, no, don;t take Karen!!!

Talk about going Nuclear