INFO - 2013-2018 8.4A /AN FW Notes (RA3/VP3-NA & RA4/VP4-NA & UAx)

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

OP
OP
Mpgrimm2

Mpgrimm2

Senior Member
Preferred Vendor
Military
Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Posts
6,096
Reaction score
4,175
Location
SC
Ram Year
2022 Ram 1500 (5th Gen)
Engine
5.7L
Yes, the 16 RA4 VP4-NA radio to are looking at should work fine in your 2017 1500 upgrade from an RA2

M² Mods.
 

likes2build

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2018
Posts
1,222
Reaction score
1,151
Location
Mohawk Valley, NY
Ram Year
2018 Express RCSB
Engine
3.6 Pentastar
So I bought a bike off a nice guy with a 2017 2500 and he said his 8.4 is supposed to have nav but it's not turned on. I'm thinking maybe he has an RA3 and needs to add nav. He gave me a good deal on the Harley and I'd like to steer him in the right direction. Suggestions?
 
OP
OP
Mpgrimm2

Mpgrimm2

Senior Member
Preferred Vendor
Military
Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Posts
6,096
Reaction score
4,175
Location
SC
Ram Year
2022 Ram 1500 (5th Gen)
Engine
5.7L
So I bought a bike off a nice guy with a 2017 2500 and he said his 8.4 is supposed to have nav but it's not turned on. I'm thinking maybe he has an RA3 and needs to add nav. He gave me a good deal on the Harley and I'd like to steer him in the right direction. Suggestions?
@ $200 13-17 RA3 Nav Activation
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrysler-F...avigation-System-Activation-Code/223199061051

@$100 Map updates
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-USA-N...-8-4AN-JEEP-CHRYSLER-/223221132557?nav=SEARCH

@$255 Nav unlock and map updates
https://m.ebay.com/itm/2018-USA-CAN...4AN-JEEP-RAM-/223270590669?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1



M² Mods.
 

Tyler Welch

Junior Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2020
Posts
14
Reaction score
2
Location
Wichita Falls
Ram Year
2013
Engine
6.7 Cummings
Awesome mod and thread just completed my RA3 upgrade and it went smoothly thanks to this step by step thread. Only error I had was with the pins in the female connector to the HVAC module not all being seated completely. Like Mpgrimm2 says if you have an error.... How well do you trust your harness haha.. thanks to that tip that was the first thing I began checking. Also added the navigation thanks to the ebay link and his customer support is awesome. I would definitely recommend purchasing the nav feature from him.
 
Last edited:

chri5k

Senior Member
Supporting Member
Joined
May 24, 2019
Posts
1,949
Reaction score
2,957
Location
USA
Ram Year
2016
Engine
Diesel
I JUST UPGRAGED FROM A RA1 TO A RA4 WITH NAV INSTALLED THE 911 PIG TAIL BUT STILL GETTING THE 911 SEE DEALER SCREEN DID I FORGET SOMTHING?

Check the jack on the back of the radio where the pigtail is plugged in very carefully like with a magnifying glass. I had one where the tiny center pin was bent so the pigtail did not make proper contact and the 911 message appeared. The pigtail did not feel odd when plugged in sin e the pin is very small. I managed to straighten the pin without breaking it and the pigtail worked fine afterwards. Be very very careful if you have a bent pin. Nudge a little at a time with a jewelers screwdriver until it is straight.
 

Cesar592

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2016
Posts
398
Reaction score
53
Ram Year
2013
Engine
3.6 pentastar
uaq update problems part number 68331631AX update to v22.6 and my navigation disappeared Someone else can help me or know if there is any new update
 
OP
OP
Mpgrimm2

Mpgrimm2

Senior Member
Preferred Vendor
Military
Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Posts
6,096
Reaction score
4,175
Location
SC
Ram Year
2022 Ram 1500 (5th Gen)
Engine
5.7L

18harvest

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2019
Posts
565
Reaction score
271
Location
huntsville
Ram Year
2018
Engine
5.7
1st check in the dealer screen and see if it has a number under map database.if it doesn't they are gone.unfortunately the radio won't let you reload the same number firmware or go back to a older one.like mpgrimm just posted use at your own risk.but I have been running the 34.2 application with a 22.5 map pack with no problems the last two days.once you use the above applications there is no going back to a ram specific application you have basically just turned your ram uaq into a wrangler jl uaq.but the jl applications will let you go back to jl applications.
 

keltek

Junior Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2015
Posts
4
Reaction score
3
Ram Year
2018
Engine
6.7 Cummins
Just updated successfully using link and directions below:

I have a 2018 Ram 3500 Tradesman

Installed 8.4 4c Nav part# 68331632AE (purchased from Canadian auto recycler)

Thanks to @Mpgrimm2 and @skuppy069

2018 8.4 4c Nav (UCQ/VP4R CA)
Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

- 68331632Ax appears to be a Canadian RAM UCQ 4c NAV w/SXM (no cellular ant.)

- v22.6 UCQ Fw Link (Good Version) and Update Directions Link
List of changes: 18 Ram UAx v22.6 TSB 08-016-19 Rev_E.pdf (directions also)
 

Corey Zamara

Junior Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2020
Posts
2
Reaction score
0
Location
Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada
Ram Year
2016 Sport
Engine
5.7L Hemi V8
Does anyone know if this will work with hardware part number 68258676AH, it's a 8.4 RA4 with Software 16.09.09, if I am reading this properly it should work, you just haven't come across that exact part number, I am in Ontario Canada if that helps.



DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

(CNET) MD5 Checker 2.31 (creator)
(GET IT! You should check your downloads against MD5’s whenever they’re posted to verify a good download.)

2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
Some have had problems with it and a some have had success using these with the conversion. Doesn't seem to consistently work in 2013, 2014 & some 2015 trucks. NOT RECOMMENDED IN EARLIER TRUCKS


Verified P/N's:
- 68258671AA ... JRG18 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.17.5)
- 68258671AA ... oGutierre66 (2016 Truck w/ FW v15.03.6) issues were harness related See post 137
- 68258671AA ... Dodgetk81 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
- 68258671AF ... GYSOT (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
- 68258671AG ... Cmacks88 (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.41.4)
- 68258671AH ... ernbrdn (2016 Truck & Factory RA4 w/ FW v16.09.09)

- 68258671AA & AE ... Getupkid & Mpgrimm2 had problems, See POST 135
( No Sound/No Volume up & dwn control. "Settings" menu locked out/doesn't recognize key in "run" position. FW v15.25.8)

- 68258671AE & AF ... Jake2544 had problems (see here)
(Weekly loss of Sound. Requires reset/battery disconnect. Tried FW v15.25.8 & 15.30.2)

---------------------------
Latest Version: 18.45.01

** FYI. The latest v18.45.01 update for ALL 13-17 Ra3 VP3-NA and RA4 VP4-NA radios is in a separate thread at the moment & appears to require SW version 17.11.x or higher **
ROLL-UP INFO: FOTA 18.11.x & uC D/L 18.45.01 SW Update 13-17 RA3/Vp3-NA & Ra4 VP4-NA.



NOTE: The only files that should be on your Fat32 8gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso and swdl.upd"

- v17.43.01 Fw Link (2016 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
List of Changes: TSB 08-046-18 RevA MY16 v17.43.01.pdf
MD5: 5E3CA9981FAA0C1DAB9E964C4D61F4D8

- v.17.11.07 Fw Link (2016 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
List of changes: tsb_08-046-17 MY16 RA4 VP4-NA v17.11.07.pdf
MD5: E6C8EE8556CD3C76528D1329FD29A586


NOTE: For prior FW, the only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso" (v16.33.29 adds swdl.upd )

- v16.33.29 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
List of Changes: My16 RA4 v16.33.29 FCA tsb_08-057-16 Rev A.pdf
MD5: A8505D43036AAC8B57551A5422AF2A8C

- v.16.09.09 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only)
(Update Directions Link)
List of Changes: 2016 RA4 v16.09.09 FCA tsb_wk2_08-057-16.pdf
MD5: 851B0DC9C822972A14F5137D2F43EF30

- v.15.44.4 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
MD5: F3041E917239A615B7D493F78EC82857

- v.15.30.2 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
MD5: 73BECE1EA3B80CCC3D0747AB364E5A44

-------------------------------

Here is my understanding after several emails with NavRepair Support:
- 68258671xx series 2016 RA4’s are RAM compatible and the latest 2016 FW is v16.09.09 but they do not recommend it for pre-2016 Rams.




12-30-15 EDIT (Via Email):
 

sawz

Senior Member
Military
Joined
Oct 25, 2015
Posts
207
Reaction score
112
Location
Aldie, VA
Ram Year
2015 Ram 1500 QC
Engine
Hemi 5.7
Does anyone have the v19.9 UAS firmware file available for download?
 
OP
OP
Mpgrimm2

Mpgrimm2

Senior Member
Preferred Vendor
Military
Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Posts
6,096
Reaction score
4,175
Location
SC
Ram Year
2022 Ram 1500 (5th Gen)
Engine
5.7L
Does anyone know if this will work with hardware part number 68258676AH, it's a 8.4 RA4 with Software 16.09.09, if I am reading this properly it should work, you just haven't come across that exact part number, I am in Ontario Canada if that helps.
No, the 2016 RA4 VP4-NA (USA), PN 68258671Ax files
... will not work on your 2016 RA4 VP4-CA (Canada) radio PN 68258676Ax


Does anyone have the v19.9 UAS firmware file available for download?
I've been looking for it and the UAQ v19.9 for a long time as well.

M² Mods.
 

Jalsaeed

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2013
Posts
15
Reaction score
6
Ram Year
2015
Engine
Hemi 5.7
I have an update for anyone outside the US trying to install a UAQ/UAS in an older truck.
My #1 issue was AM/FM sound wouldn't work but any other type of media works fine, apperantly this turned out to be because of country the car is programmed to.
Using AlfaOBD I changed the country to US and like magic Am/Fm had sound!
It now makes sense as the UAQ that I'm using came out of a US spec car.
 

Frischky

Junior Member
Joined
May 22, 2020
Posts
9
Reaction score
4
Location
Canada
Ram Year
2018
Engine
5.7
Does anybody know the difference is in the letters prefixing firmware versions? For example, IR, ER, AOS... seen a few different iterations, but no rhyme or reason behind them.
 
Last edited:

D-RAM-IT

Junior Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2020
Posts
8
Reaction score
3
Location
Colorado Springs
Ram Year
2017
Engine
Hemi 5.7 V8
upgraded my 17 ram 1500 with a UAQ from a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee (68306656AA), couldn't get it to take an update at first. I was on version 19.12 and kept getting an incompatible version displayed on the screen every time i plugged the usb drive in. Found out UAQ already had the newest Map Update for Navigation so it was telling me i wasn't compatible. When I removed the map update folder from the USB it took the update.

Just want to help anyone else out there who could be having a similar issue. I was originally trying to update from 19.12 version to 21.9 (had map update in it) but decided might as well update to 22.6 without the map update.
 

Frischky

Junior Member
Joined
May 22, 2020
Posts
9
Reaction score
4
Location
Canada
Ram Year
2018
Engine
5.7
I managed to upgrade my 2017(.5?) UAQ in my Charger from (CR) 16.11 to (ER) 18.14.

I can't seem to get it to take anything above that. I tried (IR) 21.9 and (IR) 22.5. It will give me a valid update message and after reboot, update immediately starts at 90% done and takes about a minute to get to 95% where it just resets. Radio didn't actually take the update, as it asks again if I want to update.

Anybody seen this before?
 

nadesico25

Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2015
Posts
36
Reaction score
7
Location
Graham, NC
Ram Year
2014
Engine
hemi 5.7
I dont know if you are still keeping this up to date, but here's some info
68238619AF - 15.17.5 update to 17.43.01 Here is part of update log.

old part number with suffix =>
68238619AF
new ecu part number is =>
68238619AL
ECU part number Update successful
Software Update successfully completed
Version = 17.43.01

hope this helps, saw the ??? marks for this part number.
Also was able to update from 17.43.01 to 18.45.01 today with no issues
 

rontrim

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 25, 2020
Posts
3
Reaction score
0
Location
Granite City, IL
Ram Year
2014
Engine
5.7 Hemi
Are all of the part numbers for the 2014 AA,AD,AG,AH, etc... interchangeable or do I have to replace my 68224525AH with another AH?
 
Top