Installing OEM backup cam

[R.L.K.]

If you are talking about the latest software update for the RA2 5.0 Radio , it's great !
It gives many options that were not there prior , to include the option to turn on & off the backup camera and the option to turn on & off the active gridlines .

 

[R.L.K.]

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[Mpgrimm2]

It does, except it has what appears to be the 3 wires going to the radio.

^^^^
Exactly....

@sritter
Does that bare metal shield wire ohm out to the bare/camera shield wire at the radio with a meter ? ( pin 33)

Yea, I definitely do not have those 3 wires there. If I make a mini harness from this connector to the back of the radio would it work? Any thoughts on this?

Glad you haven't given up on this as I want to figure this out as well.

Yes, it seems very likely that is all you need, but ...

First, we need an up close picture of the 3 camera wires going into the back of sritter117's radio at pins 31,32,33 to verify the wire colors match at both ends (and get him to possibly ohm it with a meter to verify 100%) because we don't know which of the other 2 wires in his picture are the Camera Signal vs Camera Signal Return, the shield is easy to ID in the picture (bare wire).

Second, we need to identify the pin/socket part numbers for the 3 camera wires at that connector in sritter's picture (might be the same as the i315 but idk).

Then it should be easy to make the harness, since we know the part numbers on the other end of the connector at the radio. I even know the length, 70 inches (that's what she said )

See if you can get a hold of Sritter via PM to take a look at this post to help us with this. I'm not sure he is around much since he only has 3 posts still.

Attached is sritter's connector that may be the camera wires...

 

[Express Man]

Yeah distorted it. Here's link http://www.carcomplaints.com/Ram/1500/2014/electrical/entire_electrical_system_failure.shtml

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Regarding this issue yesterday R.L.K was right dealer found the issue being the C5 I thought it was in all the way apparently not. Thank you everyone for the help you guys are the best.

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[R.L.K.]

Regarding this issue yesterday R.L.K was right dealer found the issue being the C5 I thought it was in all the way apparently not. Thank you everyone for the help you guys are the best.

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Glad I could help my friend !
I just wish I would posted in time for you to be able to fix it yourself and not have to go to your local dealership !
Hope this didn't $ cost $ you much ....

 

[Express Man]

Glad I could help my friend !
I just wish I would posted in time for you to be able to fix it yourself and not have to go to your local dealership !
Hope this didn't $ cost $ you much ....

You did get post out on time. I tried to fix myself several times. Could of swore I had it in right but I guess not. Truck is still under warranty so free of charge. [emoji2]

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[JRG18]

I installed mine just haven't had the code flashed yet. Fingers definitely crossed.

 

[R.L.K.]

I installed mine just haven't had the code flashed yet. Fingers definitely crossed.

Once you get the XAC code flashed in , if you have any issues at all just post them up here . I'm sure we will be able help .

 

[JRG18]

Once you get the XAC code flashed in , if you have any issues at all just post them up here . I'm sure we will be able help .

Will do. Hopefully all goes well. I'm hoping to do the backup camera, remote start and tow mirrors same day. Hoping the mirrors don't throw a check engine and cause issues. Will have to deliver it to them all sorts of torn apart since the module for the remote start has to be installed after the code is flashed lol. I'll have no back seat, back trim and pillars all tore out......should be fun.

 

[Mpgrimm2]

@Ktsull, post up your questions in this thread (I'm heading out on vacation/back home tomorrow).

Alright so I did the update, still no lines and no option for any, so now I am going to assume the problem lies at the BCM, which of course I have no idea where that is or really what to even look for to find it....

You are going to want to take a look at the BCM C5/E connector pin 45 to see if there is a wire (orange wire) connected to activate the lines. Some trucks may already have had a wire there, so the installer is supposed to "splice" onto the wire with the one from the kit.

I recommend you read through the kit directions, reference the schematic and read the linked posts (linked below) before hunting around in there. Likely the dealer tech didn't connect the wire, or didn't connect it to the correct wire on the BCM (or possibly a bad splice). If you don't see something obvious, then consider having them fix... and don't let them tell you it's correct as-is because it is definitely not.

Be sure to post questions in the forum thread for the camera, there are several guys who can also help steer you in the right direction ( I go on vacation in 2 days). And don't forget to disconnect the battery before you go unplugging things.

From post 10 of the camera thread (Lots of great references in one spot ...

Here are the current Ram/Chrysler OEM kit directions (and P/N's) for adding the factory Parkview Camera to 2013-2015 Ram Trucks depending on your Trim Level/radio i.e. Express/RA1 vs rest/RA2,RA3,RA4.

- PN 82214240 (RA2, RA3, RA4 Radios as monitor)
$300 parts/$507 installed at dealership
K6862043 2013-2015 Ram Parkview Cam w RA2 RA3 RA4 Radio Monitor PN 82214240

Here are both the basic factory Backup Camera schematic and the Add-On Kit schematic for the Radio/harness ...
2013+ Factory & OEM Add-On Kit PN 82214240 schematics.png

** Please DOUBLE CHECK & RECHECK YOUR WIRING at ALL CONNECTOR PINS BEFORE RE-APPLYING POWER! **

Post 19+ - Pictures of the BCM Module layout for the C5/E connector. Post 20 & up have some good pictures by 70chall440 also.

Ah, I found the BCM, and the purple wire looks to be spliced into the yellow wire like it's supposed to be. Then the purple is running to the BCM, I'll have to dig a little deeper tomorrow and see about the connections.

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Post good pictures of this??!!
(To make sure we understand exactly what you are referencing)

If you look at the schematic I linked and reference the kit directions steps 40 - 44, you will see that the "Yellow Wire is not used", i.e. the purple wire (your grid lines) should be connected directly to the BCM pin 45 or spiced into an "Orange w/Dark Blue stripe" wire that was already there.

I also called the dealer that installed it, he's having me bring it in on Monday if I can't find a remedy.

 

[R.L.K.]

The yellow wire should not be spliced into the purple ? Unless the directions have changed .

The yellow wire is for the mirror display only.,.and just gets taped back into the long body harness .

 

[JRG18]

The yellow wire should not be spliced into the purple ? Unless the directions have changed .

The yellow wire is for the mirror display only.,.and just gets taped back into the long body harness .

Did it a week ago. This is correct. Tape back the yellow. I had to splice into the wire on that connector. It's the only thing that makes me nervous about the whole install. Tight space.

 

[Ktstull]

So if the yellow is spliced into the purple, does everyone say that would cause the display to still play the video but it's tricking the camera into thinking it's sending a signal to the mirror??


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[R.L.K.]

So if the yellow is spliced into the purple, does everyone say that would cause the display to still play the video but it's tricking the camera into thinking it's sending a signal to the mirror??


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If your OEM harness has the yellow wire spliced into the purple wire , this may still work ?
For the mirror install the instructions has you splice the yellow wire into the BCM @ C-7 if I remember correctly?

The harness in the OEM kit is used in multiple installs ie mirror or radio being the display . This is done to save money and mass produce the harness .

I'd like to see pics of your brand new OEM harness that has the yellow wire spliced into the purple wire ....

Seems odd to me ?
What does your installation instructions say for the install of the purple wire and what does it say to do with the yellow wire ?
What is the P/N of your kit ?

Thanks for your response Sir .

 

[R.L.K.]

So if the yellow is spliced into the purple, does everyone say that would cause the display to still play the video but it's tricking the camera into thinking it's sending a signal to the mirror??


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The purple wire is just for the active gridlines to display .
You can install the entire kit and not even hook up the purple wire at all . The backup cam will work fine . You just will not have the Active grid lines displayed.

Hope this helps

 

[Ktstull]

The purple wire is just for the active gridlines to display .
You can install the entire kit and not even hook up the purple wire at all . The backup cam will work fine . You just will not have the Active grid lines displayed.

Hope this helps

Little back ground, the OEM back up camera kit number that was used is P/N 82214240
I bought it on my own and then had it installed at a dealer. Presently, the camera works fine except for the fact that I do not have the active guidelines (which I am trying to get.) it APPEARS that the yellow and purple have been splice together. If this is true, do you think that would effect me having guidelines?

 

[R.L.K.]

Little back ground, the OEM back up camera kit number that was used is P/N 82214240
I bought it on my own and then had it installed at a dealer. Presently, the camera works fine except for the fact that I do not have the active guidelines (which I am trying to get.) it APPEARS that the yellow and purple have been splice together. If this is true, do you think that would effect me having guidelines?

Very possible Sir .
What radio do you have ?

 

[Mpgrimm2]

Little back ground, the OEM back up camera kit number that was used is P/N 82214240
I bought it on my own and then had it installed at a dealer. Presently, the camera works fine except for the fact that I do not have the active guidelines (which I am trying to get.) it APPEARS that the yellow and purple have been splice together. If this is true, do you think that would effect me having guidelines?

Yes.

BCM C5/E pin 45 (org/Db) wire sends out the signal needed by the camera to generate the grid lines on the video.

If, the kit's purple wire (grid line signal back to camera) is not spliced onto pin 45, you will not get grid lines.

Without seeing a picture, it sounds like yours is spliced onto a yellow wire at the bcm C5/E, but not pin 45...
or
you are saying the kit's purple wire is spliced into the kit's yellow wire (kit's body harness A connector that comes through the firewall). Not sure which "yellow" wire you are referencing!!!

Either way ... no grid lines

 

[Ktstull]

Very possible Sir .
What radio do you have ?

I have the 8.4A
This is the best picture I can get from under there.

 

[Ktstull]

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