Synthetic Oil

[knightjp]

Something that would be an interesting discussion is would there be any benefit for a truck that's been on redline to do a interval with restore and protect. We know the last restore product "Valvoline premium blue restore" was esters and was very popular. Perhaps if you are already on ester based redline, there would be little benefit to a restore product?

I don't think there is a benefit, unless the owner is looking for cheaper alternative for Redline.

Honestly at this point, I would go cheaper oil and change every 5000kms (3106 miles) especially if you are doing that kind of mileage on regular basis.
I do 5000kms every 1.5 - 1.25 months. Over here in Dubai, one set of Redline oil will cost about 4 changes of Havoline Pro DS.

 

[knightjp]

With over 2000 pages in this thread, anybody wanna give me the cliff notes and tell me the top 3 rated/recommended oils. From the looks of it, it’s amsoil, royal purple, and PUP?? In either 5w20 or 5/30, and being I live in the south, 30 would be the recommendation?

1. Ditch 5w20 and stick to 5W30 or 0W40, regardless of where you are.
2. Choose a good brand oil that is reputed. Don't go for anything that isn't well known.
3. Depending on your budget and the mileage you cover, consider switching to a 3000 mile oil change interval.
4. If your budget can hold it and you can get Redline 5w30, get it and then and only then would I suggest keeping the OCI (oil change interval) to 5000 miles / 10,000 kms.
Oil recommendations:
For change intervals every 5000 kms / 3000 miles:
- Valvoline Advanced 5w30
- Havoline Pro DS 5w30
- Liquimoly Molygen 5w30
- Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 / 0w40
- Castrol Magnatec 5w30
- Castrol Edge 5w30 / 0w40

With any of these choices, you can add the following additives if you wish - especially if you plan on keeping the oil change for 10,000 / 5000 miles. **
- Lubegard Biotech
- Liquimoly MoS2
- Liquimoly Hydraulic Lifter Fluid

For change intervals every 10,000 kms / 5000 miles:
- Redline High Performance 5w30
- HPL 5w30
- Mobil 1 FS Euro 0w40
- Royal Purple 5w30
- Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 / 0w40
- Castrol Edge 5w30 / 0w40

** Redline and HPL are the only oils within this range that you don't need and should not to use any additives on.

** If your engine currently has a Hemi lifter tick, you will need to use either
- Redline 5w30 / 0w40 OR
- Any other oil with Lubegard Biotech
This will not remove the tick completely, but will certainly lubricate the engine better and quieten the ticking to a level where you won't hear it.

 

[turkeybird56]

There's your Mitsubishi +5% mileage. Like that matters.

Meanwhile, the engine is inundated with blowby soot an unburned gas as if it were a Briggs and Stratton flathead 6:1 CR from the 60's.

And I haven't even dragged the Harley out yet to unwind. Finally warming up now. I've seen guys riding with winter parka coats on. What's "fun" about that?

You can go and brag: Hey dudes, I got my HD out, where are your rides? P----'s, lmao.

Nope, I never was in to the ice man riding, I prefer 75 Degrees, 75 mph, Cruise On, Music Playing.

 

[Hemi395]

@Wild one does your remote dual filter setup help lower oil temps at all? I found this oil cooler, I like the concept except for the barbed fittings and potential restriction in flow. Also found this install video, I would probably run mine off a switch in the cab.

Thought about adding the factory oil cooler but I have never been a fan of the possibility of mixing coolant and oil if it goes bad...

 

[HEMIMANN]

You can go and brag: Hey dudes, I got my HD out, where are your rides? P----'s, lmao.

Nope, I never was in to the ice man riding, I prefer 75 Degrees, 75 mph, Cruise On, Music Playing.

I prefer listening to they symphony of pistons...

 

[turkeybird56]

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I prefer listening to they symphony of pistons...

Got that but you not gonna get the clippity clap, boom boom, shake, rattle and roll of a V Twin from a 6 cylinder boxer motor. My lawn mower louder than my MC at idle. Lmao.

FTR I had a 2008 HD Ultra Classic before my Honda Wing hee hee. My HD I used to own is the White one in the dual HD pic.

 

[Wild one]

@Wild one does your remote dual filter setup help lower oil temps at all? I found this oil cooler, I like the concept except for the barbed fittings and potential restriction in flow. Also found this install video, I would probably run mine off a switch in the cab.

Thought about adding the factory oil cooler but I have never been a fan of the possibility of mixing coolant and oil if it goes bad...

With a 180 T-stat and the dual filters i really have to be beating on the truck to see 200F on oil temps,usually takes about 5 miles at wide open throttle to hit 200/202.
If you're seeing 255 i'd be a bit scared as those seem to be a bit excessive,if it was my truck,i think i'd be changing that oil before the trip home,but that's only me,lol.
Have you gave any thought to a colder thermostat,it's not a cure-all for high oil temps,but it'd help.
You can run a 180 with-out tuning or changing anything.
Are you still running the mechanical fan Corey?

 

[HEMIMANN]

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Got that but you not gonna get the clippity clap, boom boom, shake, rattle and roll of a V Twin from a 6 cylinder boxer motor. My lawn mower louder than my MC at idle. Lmao.

FTR I had a 2008 HD Ultra Classic before my Honda Wing hee hee. My HD I used to own is the White one in the dual HD pic. View attachment 565230View attachment 565231View attachment 565232

Nah, I got Milwaukee 8 counterbalanced.

 

[turkeybird56]

Nah, I got Milwaukee 8 counterbalanced.

U got you a New Bike, LOL, my 2008 had nothing balanced except me keeping bike upright. So U may not shake, rattle and roll as much, BUT, U still got the Clippity Clap and the classic HD V Twin exhaust sounds from those 2 Big Pistons working, LOL.

I assume you have the exhaust cooling they came out with like 5 years ago. You got you a big Jug fan to cool more???

 

[Hemi395]

With a 180 T-stat and the dual filters i really have to be beating on the truck to see 200F on oil temps,usually takes about 5 miles at wide open throttle to hit 200/202.
If you're seeing 255 i'd be a bit scared as those seem to be a bit excessive,if it was my truck,i think i'd be changing that oil before the trip home,but that's only me,lol.
Have you gave any thought to a colder thermostat,it's not a cure-all for high oil temps,but it'd help.
You can run a 180 with-out tuning or changing anything.
Are you still running the mechanical fan Corey?

Yeah I've ran 180s and a 190s several times. They all start to be sluggish opening or get stuck open. Finally got fed up with aftermarket tstats and put a Mopar 203 in. With the 203 I put my mech clutch back on with a mopar 2500 fan clutch figuring it would help with temps while towing. Unfortunately it doesn't and you can tell instantly when the ac fan kicks on.

I have those 797 restrictor plates and a dorman grill shutter assembly waiting to go on, I just wasn't sure that would affect oil temps that much?

 

[Wild one]

Yeah I've ran 180s and a 190s several times. They all start to be sluggish opening or get stuck open. Finally got fed up with aftermarket tstats and put a Mopar 203 in. With the 203 I put my mech clutch back on with a mopar 2500 fan clutch figuring it would help with temps while towing. Unfortunately it doesn't and you can tell instantly when the ac fan kicks on.

I have those 797 restrictor plates and a dorman grill shutter assembly waiting to go on, I just wasn't sure that would affect oil temps that much?

I remember you and Brandon were working on a way to add the shutters to your truck awhile ago. The thermostat restrictors are an easy 15 min swap,i'd throw the smallest one in and see what happens,you can always go up to the middle size if need be,but i'd start with the smallest one first. Running cooler coolant temps won't cure your high oil temps,but it sure won't hurt either

 

[Burla]

driverless rigs

This is such a bad idea, lol. As a trucker for a decade, there are so many variables, there is so many things that come up and professional drivers develop the "long eye" for. I cant believe this has support amongst the public. where you stand on it, btw I don't judge, my opinion is just that, my opinion.

 

[HEMIMANN]

U got you a New Bike, LOL, my 2008 had nothing balanced except me keeping bike upright. So U may not shake, rattle and roll as much, BUT, U still got the Clippity Clap and the classic HD V Twin exhaust sounds from those 2 Big Pistons working, LOL.

I assume you have the exhaust cooling they came out with like 5 years ago. You got you a big Jug fan to cool more???

Nope. No exhaust cooling.

What they did was add oil passages to the cylinder heads. This motor is called "oil-cooled". If you think about it, oil sump temp (normal) is about the same as liquid coolant temps, so why not? I think it's a great idea, cause the hottest temp in the engine is at the block/head interface.

My engine oil sump runs 200F even on the hottest days. BUT - they STILL didn't add a fan!!! I mean, whoever heard of an air-cooled engine without any fan at all? Absurd. So I added mini-mite cylinder fans. Hell, even a Briggs and Stratton has ALWAYS had a fan!

 

[turkeybird56]

Nope. No exhaust cooling.

What they did was add oil passages to the cylinder heads. This motor is called "oil-cooled". If you think about it, oil sump temp (normal) is about the same as liquid coolant temps, so why not? I think it's a great idea, cause the hottest temp in the engine is at the block/head interface.

My engine oil sump runs 200F even on the hottest days. BUT - they STILL didn't add a fan!!! I mean, whoever heard of an air-cooled engine without any fan at all? Absurd. So I added mini-mite cylinder fans. Hell, even a Briggs and Stratton has ALWAYS had a fan!

SO U added (2) mini's instead of a big jug fan huh? Got Pics?

Of course my 2008 had no fans, but it was just a 96 Motor.

Of course the Honda is Liquid cooled with (2) radiators also and stupid loud fans when they kick in.

 

[Hemi395]

driverless rigs

This is such a bad idea, lol. As a trucker for a decade, there are so many variables, there is so many things that come up and professional drivers develop the "long eye" for. I cant believe this has support amongst the public. where you stand on it, btw I don't judge, my opinion is just that, my opinion.

I for one think this is a bad idea. Having driven all over the country with our camper, all the truck drivers I've encountered have been amazing at what they do. They are true professional drivers. I learned quickly that when they slow down I should slow down. There is a good reason they are slowing down. Sometimes it's something way ahead they saw or sometimes its just the wind picked up and they're slowing down out of caution. Either way I've found they know about potential hazards before the rest of us drivers are aware of them. And they have to be aware of the idiot drivers that don't understand you cant stop a fully loaded truck on a dime. That takes training and skill.

I've also had a truck driver stop traffic with his rig so I could back the camper out of a wrong turn I took years ago. Would an automated truck do that?

Plus its taking jobs away from people.

 

[MontanaHandyman]

I for one think this is a bad idea. Having driven all over the country with our camper, all the truck drivers I've encountered have been amazing at what they do. They are true professional drivers. I learned quickly that when they slow down I should slow down. There is a good reason they are slowing down. Sometimes it's something way ahead they saw or sometimes its just the wind picked up and they're slowing down out of caution. Either way I've found they know about potential hazards before the rest of us drivers are aware of them. And they have to be aware of the idiot drivers that don't understand you cant stop a fully loaded truck on a dime. That takes training and skill.

I've also had a truck driver stop traffic with his rig so I could back the camper out of a wrong turn I took years ago. Would an automated truck do that?

Plus its taking jobs away from people.

Yup... it's gotta make a difference when you're around 10 feet up like that. I used to hate driving my folks around in their little subaroo... all you could see was the back of the vehicle in front of ya. And what's really fun in my pickup is when I can see a county mounty off in the distance, and a car comes zipping up behind me, and suddenly they slow way down. I usually look in my rear view mirror and say "you're welcome!" Lol!

 

[Burla]

I didn't even know there was a fire so thanks for the heads up lol

20 square miles now

"apparently" started by some Darwin who set some pallets on fire to make a bon fire. Dunno if he was making a bon fire cause he is just country or because he was trying to dispose of them, but the poor b@stard will likely have a long time in the pokey to come to terms with what he did. Never heard of a fire like this so early in the season, here we get them in the end of the season not before summer even starts.


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[Burla]

dimming the sun

Buy stock in jacket makers fellas even manu's who make 0w8 oils, the UK is going to dim the sun, lol. The working theory is it would only cost 100 bil to do this, put so much sulfur outside the atmosphere it would lower temps. The cost to lower with what we currently are doing - 1,000 trillion to 2,000 trillion dollars. By the time we figure this out, of course the ground will be out of oil anyhow, but whatever. Where is James Bond when you need him?

 

[Burla]

Which is less fake, modern science or the Jerry Springer show?

 

[MontanaHandyman]

20 square miles now

"apparently" started by some Darwin who set some pallets on fire to make a bon fire. Dunno if he was making a bon fire cause he is just country or because he was trying to dispose of them, but the poor b@stard will likely have a long time in the pokey to come to terms with what he did. Never heard of a fire like this so early in the season, here we get them in the end of the season not before summer even starts.


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A few years back here in Montana they passed a law that depending on the circumstances, if you start a wildfire, you gotta pay. I was on a wildfire for two weeks some years ago where the local forest service ranger decided to start a controlled burn in spite of the serious red flag warning. She received so many threats, they transferred her to parts unknown out of state... Last I heard they said she was given a desk job, where she couldn't do any more damage. (Her first name was Amber... we all nicknamed her Ember...