2025 Ram dead after jump starting another vehicle

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I have been jumping cars the wrong way for 60 years and haven't blown one up yet. I must be very lucky. I do used jumper boxes nowadays, but I have jumped both of our current vehicles with the doner running and I have always put the negative clamp on the negative terminal. Has anyone actually seen a battery blow up?
 

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I have been jumping cars the wrong way for 60 years and haven't blown one up yet. I must be very lucky. I do used jumper boxes nowadays, but I have jumped both of our current vehicles with the doner running and I have always put the negative clamp on the negative terminal. Has anyone actually seen a battery blow up?
Yup way back when i was a kid my Dad and i were starting a grain auger at -35,and had the battery hooked up to dads old 75 Ford,and we were using a propane tiger torch to heat the old briggs n strattons crank case when dad got a touch close to the battery with the torch.There was absolutely nothing left of that battery after it blew up,both dad and i were lucky,as we never had a mark on either of us,but there were chunks of battery imbedded in the grain bins and holes in the 45 gallon burn bins that were all over a 100ft away from where we were.Gained alot of respect for how deadly a battery can be when it explodes ;)
 

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I have been jumping cars the wrong way for 60 years and haven't blown one up yet. I must be very lucky. I do used jumper boxes nowadays, but I have jumped both of our current vehicles with the doner running and I have always put the negative clamp on the negative terminal. Has anyone actually seen a battery blow up?
Yes, while not there the instant it happened, I saw the immediate aftermath of a battery explosion at my uncle's service station. It is no joke.
 

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I have been jumping cars the wrong way for 60 years and haven't blown one up yet. I must be very lucky. I do used jumper boxes nowadays, but I have jumped both of our current vehicles with the doner running and I have always put the negative clamp on the negative terminal. Has anyone actually seen a battery blow up?

This reminds me of the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.
I doubt all of the facts are presented in the official press release.

IIRC, NASA violated their own safety protocol more than once by not replacing gaskets on the solid rocket fuel booster. The protocol was to replace the seals after every flight, but it became a learned experience that it was OK not to follow the rules, as nothing bad happened during the previous flights. As we all know, their luck didn't last too long.

Why do we have safety protocols anyway?

Again, IIRC, they sacked the maintenance official who tried to intervene and cancel the flight.
He predicted the impending explosion would destroy mission control and the crew. Had it happened just a bit sooner, his prediction would have been a reality. Instead, they only lost the shuttle and the entire crew.



No offence intended, but from my learned experience from the stories of many others and a bit of basic physics, I think that you're working on a Darwin Award.

I don't have to P on the electric fence to know it's a bad idea. :cool:

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Gooloo GP-4000 is on sale for $90 for Prime members.
And for the Canucks, $87 at walmart.ca.


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I have been jumping cars the wrong way for 60 years and haven't blown one up yet. I must be very lucky. I do used jumper boxes nowadays, but I have jumped both of our current vehicles with the doner running and I have always put the negative clamp on the negative terminal. Has anyone actually seen a battery blow up?
Yes about 40 years ago and I can say glad I was not near by when it happened as the acid was blasted all over, reason I will never forget is I saw what acid did to the paint on the fender, under side of the hood and engine....
 

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Seen batteries bulging and burst but Neva witnessed the event. Have seen HUMVEE tires being aired up improperly and not in a cage and the aftermath of those booms tho.
 

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Gooloo GP-4000 is on sale for $90 for Prime members.
And for the Canucks, $87 at walmart.ca.


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Purchased mine on Amazon last year
 

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There are Jump boxes that are rated for Diesels. The one I have it rated to 8L Diesel. The newer one is rated to 10L/ 4000A.
MOSTOOL M6 4000A Jump Starter
The one you have, I'm assuming is the one you linked, did you ever try it on one of the HD pickup truck diesel engines?

Watching the Project Farm jump pack testing, a 6,000 AMP jump pack is more than adequate to spin a RAM Cummins, Duramax, or Powerstroke. I have a 6,000 amp jump pack and had the opportunity to use in on my Cummins, wow!
 

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Seen batteries bulging and burst but Neva witnessed the event. Have seen HUMVEE tires being aired up improperly and not in a cage and the aftermath of those booms tho.
When I was young, and was just getting rid of adolescent acne, I worked in a shop where we had performed work on a Camaro. (Ain't it funny how one can remember silly details germane to a BAD event?!)
When we went to start the car, post repairs, the battery was weak, and the starter struggled to even turn the engine over. So, I grabbed the roll around battery charger and set it up, and chose "Start/Boost" on the dial, and was under hood when the other mechanic got in the car and hit the key.

"BOOM" went the battery, spraying me down with battery acid. The burning was excruciating, and I got stripped down to my undies in the 25 or so feet to the bathroom (where we kept our uniforms).
In the bathroom, I was able to grab paper towels and take a sponge bathe, so to speak. My glasses had shielded my eyes, and I was EXTREMELY fortunate that my fast actions mitigated any serious scarring. I still have a few scars, but they ARE minor.

I don't know if I offended anyone for disrobing in the manner I had, but didn't care then and certainly do not now. I got a fresh uniform out of my locker and put it on and went back to work.

Years later, I had a second battery explode on an '84 Suburban with a Diesel. Fortunately, I was across the front of the vehicle from the one battery of the 2 and was unharmed.

I REALLY do respect the battery these days when I'm working on cars.

As a post script: I witnessed a car fire once when working in a full service gas station as a mechanic. One day, during my break, and during a slow moment, I was up in the glassed in office area chatting with the guys. Our attention was diverted when a car at the intersection in front of us caught fire. Th owner bailed out, we called 911, and here came the fire brigade post-haste.

When the fire truck arrived, a young firefighter got out with a pinch bar and commenced to pry the hood open (where the fire originated). An older Captain grabbed the young buck and pulled him away from the burning car, yelling at the young'un all the while.
As these 2 and other firefighters stood about 20 feet back, there came a very loud explosion from under that hood.... It was the battery. Then they pried the hood open and put out the fire.
 

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The one you have, I'm assuming is the one you linked, did you ever try it on one of the HD pickup truck diesel engines?

Watching the Project Farm jump pack testing, a 6,000 AMP jump pack is more than adequate to spin a RAM Cummins, Duramax, or Powerstroke. I have a 6,000 amp jump pack and had the opportunity to use in on my Cummins, wow!
I cannot watch the Project Farm vids. That guy's imitation of Kermit the Frog grinds me akin to nails on a chalkboard.:bleh:
 

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GM railed against jumper cables back in the 1980's when computers in cars was a new thing. This was taught to me during one of the electronics classes I attended. They touted the jumper box way back then, as well. Saying that is is how one has always done something doesn't make it right, even if you have had the dumb luck not to have problems.
You most certainly will continue to have problems if yo do not STOP using direct connection cables for jumping.
As a professional, I've had my share of "good Samaritan" customers who've blown computers on their own cars/trucks because they saw no reason NOT to use cables to jump start another dead car. One cost the customer over 2 grand to fix.

A 100 dollar jumper "box" is a bargain considering. My 2 jump boxes are barely larger than a cell phone, and WORK very well.
If it's such a bad idea, why do they have very explicit instructions on how to do it in the manual? I have been that good Samaritan probably half a dozen times using my 2016 F-150 to boost stranded motorists, so not the most techy truck by today's standards. I do it according to those above manual instructions but was told by a mechanic a long time ago to make sure everything electrical in the boosting truck was OFF, except for the heater fan on low, engine idling.

I too have been carrying booster packs in our vehicles but also have booster cables. Guess it's time to ditch the booster cables and just keep the newer booster packs in my roadside kit.
 
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