Retrofit of the 12” UAX radio and screen into a Tradesman

[g00fy]

Thank you Jimmy, I don't necessarily think I need the screen shots, but pictures never hurt lol. I think right now what's going to hold me up is getting the activation key for the windows copy of Alfaobd.

 

[g00fy]

Well I did it, I guess I'll let the truck sit for a few minutes and see if it will take.

 

[djcwardog]

Thank you Jimmy, I don't necessarily think I need the screen shots, but pictures never hurt lol. I think right now what's going to hold me up is getting the activation key for the windows copy of Alfaobd.

Here were a few shots of when I did it, back on page 2.
Retrofit of the 12” UAX radio and screen into a Tradesman

 

[g00fy]

So how long should this have to marinate before it takes?

 

[Jimmy07]

So how long should this have to marinate before it takes?

Pull the radio fuse for 30 minutes. Plug it back in, and drive it a few times (on/off drive cycles).

 

[djcwardog]

So how long should this have to marinate before it takes?

One concern for me: how was the t-harness wiring done to allow continued function of the MTC? You can bet that the screen is looking for it to be set (in your BCM) as “Dual Zone ATC” so you are trying to spoof it into thinking all is fine as you regulate the temps with your knobs. Also, it will certainly function in all other aspects as did mine. It was only the temp control that was wacked. Everything else worked fine. The full answer lies in converting our MTC trucks to a functional ATC setup, maybe only single zone though. I’m not sure that simply splicing over the climate wires will solve it.

 

[g00fy]

So yea I took everything out and put my 5.0 back in, I'll play with it again next weekend. Everything seems to work, but the climate control knobs are unresponsive, it's just blowing air at a certain speed, and the AC light is on. So I'm wondering, did my settings take and I've got a bad component or did this thing just need to sit longer?

I'm also wondering if I accidentally switched the auxillary switch plug with the climate control plug since they look very similar.

 

[Jimmy07]

So yea I took everything out and put my 5.0 back in, I'll play with it again next weekend. Everything seems to work, but the climate control knobs are unresponsive, it's just blowing air at a certain speed, and the AC light is on. So I'm wondering, did my settings take and I've got a bad component or did this thing just need to sit longer?

I'm also wondering if I accidentally switched the auxillary switch plug with the climate control plug since they look very similar.

Everything that you do that has to do with radio changes should be given at least a day with multiple drive cycles to make sure everything took. When you do this again, make sure the connector circled in red is the one that’s plugged into the 12” screen.
Leave the green circled connector unplugged for the time being so you can note any behavior changes. Connect to the HVAC module and scan for faults. What faults are stored, and what faults come back when you clear them, and what faults come back after you drive the truck again? Do the same for the BCM. Then, change your vehicle to a Chrysler Pacifica (this can be done with the Android app). Select radio module, and for which radio module, select display screen to connect to. See what faults are stored, and what comes back after they are cleared.

 

[g00fy]

Yea I had your adapter harness in correctly, I'm just going to try again next weekend when I have more time.

 

[PCT]

Is that an upgraded radio from what you had as far as functions? If so did you have to take a trip to the dealer to have any programming done? I have a 2019 Tradesman and was bamboozled on the Sirius radio so I was debating on upgrading to a radio with Sirius

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Same man, either doing aftermarket , or 8"

 

[PCT]

Can the dealer enable the SiriusXM by hooking the truck up to their computer - like they do when you add a factory kit? If not, there are people selling the same 5” radios with Sirius. Wonder if you could get one to work for you?

No the tuner is built in radio from my understanding

 

[g00fy]

So the cabin-net integrated center stack setting disabled the Manual controls. This morning on my way to work it just gave me max heat at the defrosters the whole ride, but when i got to work i decided to see if I could adjust the settings with AlfaOBD on my phone, the integrated center stack option was there and I changed it back to Enable, and my manual controls instantly came back. I'm starting to wonder if i have a bad component and that's why the touch screen isn't turning on. Both the MODULE and the Touch Screen i bought 2nd hand off ebay, so it wouldn't shock me if one or the other doesn't actually work.

 

[Jimmy07]

So the cabin-net integrated center stack setting disabled the Manual controls. This morning on my way to work it just gave me max heat at the defrosters the whole ride, but when i got to work i decided to see if I could adjust the settings with AlfaOBD on my phone, the integrated center stack option was there and I changed it back to Enable, and my manual controls instantly came back. I'm starting to wonder if i have a bad component and that's why the touch screen isn't turning on. Both the MODULE and the Touch Screen i bought 2nd hand off ebay, so it wouldn't shock me if one or the other doesn't actually work.

Did the screen ever come on when the settings were “display screen- enabled” and “integrated center stack- disabled”? If not, are you certain the radio module is for the 12” display (the one for the 8.4 UAV display is not compatible with the 12”)?
The display screen definitely won’t come on with the integrated center stack enabled, so that’s expected. BUT...you need that setting enabled for the manual controls to work.

 

[g00fy]

Did the screen ever come on when the settings were “display screen- enabled” and “integrated center stack- disabled”? If not, are you certain the radio module is for the 12” display (the one for the 8.4 UAV display is not compatible with the 12”)?

I had both settings set to what you said, display screen enabled, integrated center stack disabled, no joy. The buttons all lit up, and the emergency flashers button worked, but the screen just stayed black, no flicker, no back light, and the module is part# 68317978AI

However though, with display screen "enabled" my Uconnect 5.0 still works fine... So i'm not sure if that's supposed to be or not.

 

[djcwardog]

The module that came with my 12" UAX kit , now returned, was part # 68422046AA. I tried running your part # in two different sites and it would not return a hit. When I ran mine it gave me a hit but, unfortunately, did not show what part #'s were superseded, so no help here, sorry. They use these in Jeeps, 1500's, 2500's and who knows what else?

 

[g00fy]

The part number i got is the one jimmy listed in an earlier post here:

Retrofit of the 12” UAX radio and screen into a Tradesman

I think it's also the same part number that users on the 5thgenram.com forum recommended for the UAX conversion.

 

[Jimmy07]

The part number i got is the one jimmy listed in an earlier post here:

Retrofit of the 12” UAX radio and screen into a Tradesman

I think it's also the same part number that users on the 5thgenram.com forum recommended for the UAX conversion.

Yup, that part number is definitely tied to the 1500’s with 12” screen.

 

[g00fy]

The only thing that's in the back of my mind, beyond a faulty component is that the module i have is out of a 1500, but the Screen i purchased is supposedly out of a 2500 Hemi, part# 68420967AC.

I can't imagine the module or screen would be so picky that they would only work with other components out of the same style truck.

 

[g00fy]

So i'm going to try trouble shooting this some more this weekend, but I'm curious, the can bus plug definitely supplies power to the lighting and takes care of the signals from the climate control buttons along the outside of the screen. Does the canbus control the actual back lighting and power for the screen as well? or is the touchscreen and it's back light completely controlled by the radio module? Just trying to figure out where I should be looking for problems.

I'm still concerned about the radio module I got off ebay, the aluminum has a bunch of white corrosion spots on the one side, and it looks like it was in a truck that allowed it to be exposed to the elements for some time, I sent the ebay seller a message asking if they tested the module, and they kinda dodged the question with another question about my truck, after we went back and forth a couple times about my truck and the screen i was trying to use the module with they just told me i can send the module back if i want, but they never answered if the module was tested to be working or not. All i know is after it's left plugged in and turned on long enough it does get warm, don't know if that's a good sign or not.

 

[Jimmy07]

So i'm going to try trouble shooting this some more this weekend, but I'm curious, the can bus plug definitely supplies power to the lighting and takes care of the signals from the climate control buttons along the outside of the screen. Does the canbus control the actual back lighting and power for the screen as well? or is the touchscreen and it's back light completely controlled by the radio module? Just trying to figure out where I should be looking for problems.

I'm still concerned about the radio module I got off ebay, the aluminum has a bunch of white corrosion spots on the one side, and it looks like it was in a truck that allowed it to be exposed to the elements for some time, I sent the ebay seller a message asking if they tested the module, and they kinda dodged the question with another question about my truck, after we went back and forth a couple times about my truck and the screen i was trying to use the module with they just told me i can send the module back if i want, but they never answered if the module was tested to be working or not. All i know is after it's left plugged in and turned on long enough it does get warm, don't know if that's a good sign or not.

Since turning on the display screen module setting *normally* fires up the display screen when doing this swap, I would say yes, the can ihs wires are making the screen turn on also.

A couple thing to check when you get a chance:

On my Y harness, can you verify what color wires are in positions 1,4,5,7,&8 on the male connector (that plugs into the factory harness). Then verify what color wires are in positions 1,2,3,6,&8 on the female connector of the shorter length on the conversion harness. I’ll double check they are switched over correctly.

Can you read your BCM system status AS A PACIFICA, and upload it to google drive and share it here? You would connect to your BCM as normal, then switch to advanced mode and change over to the Pacifica BCM. Then click on status/faults tab and read the system status. Save that file in google drive, and share the link here.

One more thing to try- if you put the truck in reverse, does the screen come on? With the truck running, if you pull the radio fuse and plug it back in, does the screen come on?


I don’t think the fact that the 5th gen 1500 screen and module are different part numbers than 2019 HD screen and module makes a difference. I’m running a UAV screen and module out of a 5th gen 1500 rebel in my 2017 2500 currently, and as soon as I made the cabin net display screen module change, the screen turned on the next key cycle.