Synthetic Oil

[Ramnewbie]

View attachment 116267 Thanks for all the questions & small talk about the by-pass kit.
No use getting too fired up!

Like I posted: Around the 25K mile mark, I will either install one or not.
I have A lot of time & miles to travel before that time comes.

I honestly feel the Fleetguard Stratapore/Royal Purple Filters will do a more then outstanding job. The need for a by-pass unit might be way overkill.
From what I have read this motor has more of a problem with Fuel dilution compared to soot.

It would be interesting to find out if this Very Popular Stratapore filter was created with synthetic media.

Right now I’m focused on oil selection & fuel Additives & towing mods.

If fuel dilution is a problem I wouldn't even worry about a bypass filter set up. I'd just go with a good filter whether it's fleetguard or something else and make sure to change you're oil in a timely OCI. A well maintained diesel will basically outlast the body and frame it's hauling around. My dad had a navstar diesel, pulled a 40 ft Tri axle 5th wheeler from Ohio to AZ and back every year plus worked part time delivering all kinds of trailers. At 200k he had the pan dropped to check the rods and mains and they just put it back together and told him run it another 200k. In the process of all this he had a hyper max turbo installed. The only thing he ever ran in it was Pennzoil conventional diesel oil. I don't know if they still even make it anymore because he bought it straight from distributer.

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[huntergreen]

That is an interesting filter if it is the one that is part bypass, part full flow. How much do those run? I mean as opposed to paying 60 bucks per filter that is 1.2 cellulose anyhow.

OH SNAP, 100% synthetic filter, huntergreen goes all bad ass on the syn thread.

here cummins filters

Guys that is something new, polymeric filter not glass not paper, but rather polymeric and seams like a second nano sheet, I think the nano sheet may be similar to spun microglass?

Guys watch the two video's on that link, the second one shows the single filter is part bypass part full flow, 100% synthetic media. No reason to get a bypass filtration that can leave you with low oil pressure, and w/o a lot of money at 400 dollars for a plate and tubes. Cummins already made this most likely because bypass systems were giving the Cummins low oil pressure. Problem solved!!

30 bucks on ebay.

Fleetguard stratapore oil filters are 13.95 From Geno's garage.

 

[Burla]

Man, that is a great filter for 30 bucks, but 14 is a bargain for that, full flow filter that also has a bypass down to low microns and synthetic media. It aint 1996 anymore fellas, maybe new technology gets a win once in a while.

Yeah scetchy website, but interesting anyhow kyle.

 

[Burla]

I was looking hard core for the past 45 min for one. I got nothin.

In the past it was only thought of to go bypass filtration for diesels, but I believe these hemi's could only benefit from having clean oil as finicky as they are.

 

[U&A]

There are bypass systems that actually sepat and then “air evaporat” (or somthing like that) water, antifreeze and fuel from the oil. They are made for semi’s but the technology is out there.


http://cleanoilpower.com/

 

[SyN]

Fleetguard stratapore oil filters are 13.95 From Geno's garage.

Hunter: I can get the Stratapore from Amazon for $12 ea & Free Shipping.

What I can’t avoid no matter how long & hard I have searched is the ridiculous amount they want for the FG/Mopar fuel filter & water separator!

I will by no means skimp on Fuel Filtration.

It’s ok! I know it’s the price ya pay for ownership of this motor.

 

[rwreuter]

Ok, I have looked and looked for an answer to this question, both on the forum and the internet, to include The Petroleum Quality Institute of America.


For my oil changes the Ram dealer here uses Pennzoil Gold Synthetic Blend 5W-20......I am unable to locate the amount of molybdenum in the oil.


Second question, for example, PUP, would it be safe to say that the amount of molybdenum is roughly the same from weight to weight, say 5w-20, or 5w-30 ect?


Thanks!

 

[Murphy Slaw]

I think the 0w40 PUP is WAY higher in moly.

 

[Burla]

likely the 5w30 and 5w20 pennzoil synthetics all the same moly.

like muprh said, PUP 0w40 made for hemi with 4 to 5 times as much moly.

 

[rwreuter]

I would assume though, if you had the choice you would choose Red Line over PUP?

 

[Burla]

Ask Corey that question, he ran every oil he could think of including PUP 0w40 and Amsoil SS, and only Redline 5w30 ended his tick. It has density of molecules other oils don't have, unless you find a redline clone oil such as Millers or Motul. Not only density, but polarity, high anti wear additives, and high extreme pressure additives and high detergency. When FCA had to build an oil specifically for the hemi, this is what they attempted to do but they stuck to group 3, which takes density and polarity out of the equation. The 0w40 allows for some density, but it still is not as good at combating tick. Yes it still is a great oil, but it seams like if you want to be successful at getting hemi tick it takes all of the features of redline 5w30 or their clones to get that engine running smooth, and even then still only about 80% success at that.

 

[U&A]

Ok, I have looked and looked for an answer to this question, both on the forum and the internet, to include The Petroleum Quality Institute of America.


For my oil changes the Ram dealer here uses Pennzoil Gold Synthetic Blend 5W-20......I am unable to locate the amount of molybdenum in the oil.


Second question, for example, PUP, would it be safe to say that the amount of molybdenum is roughly the same from weight to weight, say 5w-20, or 5w-30 ect?


Thanks!

I think it would be ok to assume a similar amount as regular PYB whicyis a hair over 180 of organic moly. Not bad.

 

[U&A]

Dave at redline called me back. Here is the scoop on VII’s in redline blue lable. Its very simple. 5w20 and 10w30 are the only ones that contain zero viscosity index improvers. 5W-30 is the one that contains the least amount of oil’s that contain them. 10w40 is a close 2nd. From there the wider the spread of numbers the more they contains (obviously) and their 0W 40 he says contains quite a bit. I did not get any percentages.

As a sidenote he said all of their oils do contain high amount of ester. He would not mention percentages of Ester but by the way they perform you know the other percentage is going to be PAO.

Thank you dave a redline. Talking to him is like talking to a friend. They share more info about their oil than any other company i have experienced. As we have said they share because of their confidence Level in their products. Redline rocks.

 

[69GWC]

So does that mean the 10w30 is better than the 5w30 ? or is it the other way..lol

 

[U&A]

Better.... depends on what you are looking for. If you lived in Michigan like me or cap cod like Cory then the 10W-30 would not be the “BEST” year-round choice

 

[Hemi395]

Dave at redline called me back. Here is the scoop on VII’s in redline blue lable. Its very simple. 5w20 and 10w30 are the only ones that contain zero viscosity index improvers. 5W-30 is the one that contains the least amount of oil’s that contain them. 10w40 is a close 2nd. From there the wider the spread of numbers the more they contains (obviously) and their 0W 40 he says contains quite a bit. I did not get any percentages.

As a sidenote he said all of their oils do contain high amount of ester. He would not mention percentages of Ester but by the way they perform you know the other percentage is going to be PAO.

Thank you dave a redline. Talking to him is like talking to a friend. They share more info about their oil than any other company i have experienced. As we have said they share because of their confidence Level in their products. Redline rocks.

Awesome info! I've always gotten quick and thorough responses to all of my inquiries to Redline from Dave. Never talked to him on the phone only through email.

Amsoil on the other hand, as of yet has not gotten back to me about my question about what oil to use in my snowblower. Some responses I've gotten from Amsoil have been great while others have been borderline condescending. I asked them have they actually tested their MVATF the BW 44-44 since they say it will work fine and the response I got was something to the effect of "yes that's what we recommend. Thanks for contacting Amsoil." Didn't leave a good impression. Not saying Amsoil isn't a good product, just that their PR Dept need work.

When I asked Redline about the 44-44, Dave explained in detail that the specs for the unicorn tear fluid hasn't been released and they don't dare recommend a fluid for the 44-44 because it has "very specific frictional requirements" and that to be safe, I should continue using the unicorn tear fluid. If that's not a good business practice I don't know what is.

 

[U&A]

And VII’s are “generally” not a good thing. BUT are needed for lower “W” oils to flow better cold but still be “thick” when hot.

 

[U&A]

Awesome info! I've always gotten quick and thorough responses to all of my inquiries to Redline from Dave. Never talked to him on the phone only through email.

Amsoil on the other hand, as of yet has not gotten back to me about my question about what oil to use in my snowblower. Some responses I've gotten from Amsoil have been great while others have been borderline condescending. I asked them have they actually tested their MVATF the BW 44-44 since they say it will work fine and the response I got was something to the effect of "yes that's what we recommend. Thanks for contacting Amsoil." Didn't leave a good impression. Not saying Amsoil isn't a good product, just that their PR Dept need work.

When I asked Redline about the 44-44, Dave explained in detail that the specs for the unicorn tear fluid hasn't been released and they don't dare recommend a fluid for the 44-44 because it has "very specific frictional requirements" and that to be safe, I should continue using the unicorn tear fluid. If that's not a good business practice I don't know what is.

That’s the exact answer I got from him concerning my transfer case good to see consistency

 

[Burla]

So does that mean the 10w30 is better than the 5w30 ? or is it the other way..lol

I would have to say yes. The one thing that always troubled me is why 5w30 has better visc under heat, but from the posts I put forth in the last two weeks we see why. I wish I had that link with the 10w30 back, ha. 5w30 redline is still good voodoo.

always the larger swing from winter rating to weight lesser the quality of base oils.

 

[U&A]

I would have to say yes. The one thing that always troubled me is why 5w30 has better visc under heat, but from the posts I put forth in the last two weeks we see why. I wish I had that link with the 10w30 back, ha. 5w30 redline is still good voodoo.

Burla,

Rest assured he said it was a very little amount