Loudboi 2015 Ram 1500 ProCharger build

[T JAZ]

I'm assuming based on the fact you went with new pistons and the really beefed up fuel system that you're really going to push this truck, what's you're end goal for HP? Curious to see how things go! I'm really close to pulling the trigger on drop in forged pistons for peace of mind.

Honestly I daily drive this truck and don’t really have a set number in mind. Just something that can keep up with other cars on the road. I’m just going along with it for now and see where I end up later on.

 

[T JAZ]

Its possible its the OEM hellcat oil pump? That would bolt to any of the Gen 3 Hemi blocks 5.7, 6.1, 6.4, 6.2SC?

The melling one I used was
10452

 

[T JAZ]

Ahh ok I made an assumption of you being a resident of Arizona with the username.

My question is basically stage 1 if I can call it that is a 6 rib system? The 18% OD upgrade should be an 8 rib?

If I went centrifugal I'd work to fit the 2500 kit to my 5.7 engine. I like the charger mounted on the driver side to at least give me one open side to the engine.

I like this orientation better especially with the clutch fan delete. Guess I need the 6.4 truck intake manifold upgrade now
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Since the driver side has the battery already and is cluttered already lets open up the passenger side for adding something else in the future. Now what to do with the alternator since that charger would mount in the same location

Currently it is a 6 rib. The ati pulleys can come in both 6 and 8. If you need a place in AZ, definitely check out SRT Autoworks. Those guys are amazing and did my initial headers work.

 

[T JAZ]

Ok now I've thought of more questions

You need the Hellcat TB!

Do you plan to do a stall converter to better match your cam's powerband? I'm really curious to try this mod out but the cost of the upgrade $1300 ish and figure another 500-800 for install doesn't sell well for me.

Can you post the dyno sheet? I'm wondering how the power curve looks around the 3800-4200 ish area. I feel like that's where the intake manifold switches runners.

Did the engine have to be pulled for the drop ins? Or where they able to pull the heads hone block etc?
Rwd or 4X4?
Gears?
Tire size?
Which tuning software? I'm guessing HP tuners. I think you mentioned that before?

That's all for now. Thank you for the share also!
Love the build!

I looked into both a ported TB and a hellcat but was talked out of it because of diminished returns for the price and because it could affect proper air intake. air intake. Something to do with the Bernoulli’s Principle.

Engine was pulled for the install and I believe the block was machined slightly.

4x4 3.92 on 35s and yes It’s HP tuners.

This dyno was definitely very conservative just to ensure everything was done correctly.

 

[T JAZ]

Ok mainly I was asking to see how it held up

From what I gathered, the stock 8hp70 trans is good for 510ft/lb and as long as I’m not doing any neutral dumps I should be good.

 

[T JAZ]

I did pop my exhaust the other day. I believe I’m going to need a true dual eventually.

 

[Wild one]

From what I gathered, the stock 8hp70 trans is good for 510ft/lb and as long as I’m not doing any neutral dumps I should be good.

It's good to 516 lb-ft continous at the crank,not the tires.It'll take more then that for short periods of time,as long as you leave a fair bit of the torque management in place.It won't last long if your tuner reduces torque management,so make sure you tell them not to reduce it to much.

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

I did pop my exhaust the other day. I believe I’m going to need a true dual eventually.

I know you already did Long Tubes but check out the Stainless Works Long tube headers with performance connect and their catback that is performance connect. This a duel system wit an X pipe, NO more y pipe! All fully bolt in. We have a few customers with higher hp running this setup and it made for a nice increase in power from the better flowing setup!

https://stainlessworks.net/dodge-ram-2009-14-headers
https://stainlessworks.net/dodge-ram-1500-2009-exhausts

let me know if you would like a quote on it.

 

[T JAZ]

I know you already did Long Tubes but check out the Stainless Works Long tube headers with performance connect and their catback that is performance connect. This a duel system wit an X pipe, NO more y pipe! All fully bolt in. We have a few customers with higher hp running this setup and it made for a nice increase in power from the better flowing setup!

https://stainlessworks.net/dodge-ram-2009-14-headers
https://stainlessworks.net/dodge-ram-1500-2009-exhausts

let me know if you would like a quote on it.

This is definitely on the list of upgrades!

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

This is definitely on the list of upgrades!

let me know when you are ready!

 

[RedSRT4Me]

I looked into both a ported TB and a hellcat but was talked out of it because of diminished returns for the price and because it could affect proper air intake. air intake. Something to do with the Bernoulli’s Principle.

Engine was pulled for the install and I believe the block was machined slightly.

4x4 3.92 on 35s and yes It’s HP tuners.

This dyno was definitely very conservative just to ensure everything was done correctly.

I have yet to dyno my truck but man that initially AF Ratio tip in scares me. I would like it much closer to 12:1

 

[RedSRT4Me]

I looked into both a ported TB and a hellcat but was talked out of it because of diminished returns for the price and because it could affect proper air intake. air intake. Something to do with the Bernoulli’s Principle.

Engine was pulled for the install and I believe the block was machined slightly.

4x4 3.92 on 35s and yes It’s HP tuners.

This dyno was definitely very conservative just to ensure everything was done correctly.

Interesting they used a fluid dynamics principle to explain air flow

 

[Tach_tech]

...Air is considered a fluid though. Bernoulli’s principle is used to teach kids how wings generate lift based on high and low pressure air.

 

[T JAZ]

...Air is considered a fluid though. Bernoulli’s principle is used to teach kids how wings generate lift based on high and low pressure air.

In this sense, its referring to the pressure with the air choke, with the TB opening being larger than the air intake tubes.

 

[RedSRT4Me]

...Air is considered a fluid though. Bernoulli’s principle is used to teach kids how wings generate lift based on high and low pressure air.

Ok but how does using an airplane example explain how an 80mm TB will make more power than a 92mm one all else being equal?
It doesn't. The more air force/pressurized into an engine combined with fuel makes more power.

That principle doesn't apply to this scenario is what I'm saying.

 

[RedSRT4Me]

In this sense, its referring to the pressure with the air choke, with the TB opening being larger than the air intake tubes.

I'm sorry I just can't agree with the statements. I mean you and Tach_tech no disrespect with the post.

 

[Tach_tech]

I'm sorry I just can't agree with the statements. I mean you and Tach_tech no disrespect with the post.

No worries, I wasn’t commenting to the whole which throttlebody would make more power scenario or how the principle proves which one does. Just that air is considered a fluid and Bernoulli’s principle is used to explain/understand airflow. So it’s not wrong to use the principle when talking about airflow and throttle bodies. That was my point lol.

 

[T JAZ]

Ok but how does using an airplane example explain how an 80mm TB will make more power than a 92mm one all else being equal?
It doesn't. The more air force/pressurized into an engine combined with fuel makes more power.

That principle doesn't apply to this scenario is what I'm saying.

Without understanding too much, the Venturi effect falls under Bernoullis Principle.

 

[RedSRT4Me]

I realize this article is on a camaro but the point of it all is TB's make a difference on supercharged motors. We are talking about two well made OEM units in the truck 80mm and the hellcat 92mm. Neither have any driveability issues when using correct tuning. With that said I didn't realize how much more of a difference it made on the PD blowers. 60hp! Depending on boost level. Ok so an 80mm TB will only flow so much CFM. Your at 490whp? If say your current setup flows enough for a 90mm TB and you install a 92mm TB you're not going to suffer a power loss in a supercharged application. Infact when you go to your OD pulley you'll max the 80mm.

http://kennebell.net/gettin-air-richard-holdener-2/

Check out Richard Holdeners YouTube channel. He does some awesome testing of aftermarket equipment. His hemi content is small but he'll do them upon request.

 

[Dan Topp]

I have that D1 blower on my 19 5.7,my past and current issues with procharger usually revolves around belts.But over spinning and cooking the D1? I see a F1c in your future it can handle 14 before belts start shredding.But what did you do with the trans