INFO - 2013-2018 8.4A /AN FW Notes (RA3/VP3-NA & RA4/VP4-NA & UAx)

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DISCLAIMER: I am not a coder, developer, software guru, electrical engineer, etc. but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express once!

Since some have had issues with the 4th Gen 8.4 conversion I am looking to gather some details into one thread. I will update as new information is found and posted.

** My plan is to host the software update files for the various 2013-2018 8.4AN's (& 19 classic) so people can update to current versions as needed and make it easier for others to stop chasing down various VINs to get updates **


I am very interested in getting actual P/N's and FW versions from each successful 8.4AN model year (this will help with verifying what we purchase from various vendors and correct FW).





** FYI. The latest v18.45.01 update for ALL 13-17 Ra3 VP3-NA and RA4 VP4-NA radios is in a separate thread at the moment & appears to require SW version 17.11.x or higher **
ROLL-UP INFO: FOTA 18.11.x & uC D/L 18.45.01 SW Update 13-17 RA3/Vp3-NA & Ra4 VP4-NA.



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POST 2: 2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
Verified P/N's from members:

- 05091051AA AC AD AE AF AG AI AK

- 68211955AI ... (ebay listing)

- 68190240AA AB AC AD AE AF AG AH AI AJ AK

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POST 3: 2014 8.4AN Firmware (RA4/VP4 NA)
Verified P/N's from members:

- 68224525AA AB AD AE AG AH ZH

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POST 4: 2015 8.4AN Firmware (RA4/VP4 NA)
Verified P/N's from members:

- 68238619AA AC AE AF AG AH
A few members had some issues. See post 4.

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Post 5: 2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
- Some have had problems with it. Some have had success. Doesn't seem to consistently work in 2013, 2014 & some 2015 trucks. See post 5.
Verified P/N's from members:

- 68258671AA AE AF AG AH

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Post 6: 2017 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
Verified P/N's from members: (need more feedback)

- 68270661Ax AE AF AG AH

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POST 7: 2013-2017 8.4AN Canadian Info (RA4/VP4 CA)
- No apps/Cell service = No need for Cell Bypass Plug (but no HD radio).
Verified P/N's from members: SEE the linked post for details. (Some fw links)


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Post 8: 2018 Ram 8.4 UAQ & UAS (xxxx)
Verified P/N's

- 68331631AH (UAQ 4c Nav)
or 68331635AH (UAS 4c)

& some limited 2018 Canadian UCx info

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POST 9: 2013-2017 8.4A (RA3/VP3-NA)
>> Has several Fw Files <<

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Other useful 8.4 AN/VP4 NA/RA4 related thread links:


@ClearlyStabile 's:
Additional (non Ram) UAQ UAS Update Files v28.3/v30.24/v33.02.
>>> May work as non authorized sw update for ram UAx radios. See thread for details (not recommended/mixed results) <<<





- Mpgrimm2's:
DIY: 2013-2017 RA3/RA4 8.4" Radio Upgrade/HVAC Conversion.
Rebuilt from prior deleted threads. Summarizes the useful links, schematics, and parts needed.

- Getupkid's: DIY 5.0 to 8.4 Navigation upgrade (Originial thread - LOCKED. CRITICAL POSTS LOST). Indaram's rollup thread deleted also.

- Uconnect Software update site (if you have a valid model year VIN that matches the model year of your radio).
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLASH THE WRONG YEAR FIRMWARE TO INCORRECT YEAR RADIOS!


- Frobozz's: Hacking Uconnect 8.4A and 8.4AN
Useful reference from the Dodge Cummins Diesel forum about getting into various modes, i.e.

* Dealer Mode (Use this to identify your Radio's P/N and S/N !)
.. Hold Hot+Cold+Front defrost buttons for 5 seconds

* Engineering Mode
.. Hold Hot+cold+buttons for 5 seconds

* Screen Calibration
* How to save a screenshot to USBdrive

* Vehicle Shipping Mode (Reference Only, Not recommended)
.. Front Defrost + Browse/Enter for 5 seconds
my '18 ram seems to be stuck at 21.11.11, and I think the P/N is CNSC27N5GL. My picture taking skills cut off part of the label.

I'm going to try and update with '18 files this weekend.

My logic is, the LCD is damaged, so... I can't make it much worse. If it bricks, I'm looking at ~$200 more for the whole unit, versus just the LCD.

EDIT: So, I'm a computer guy. I decided to explore the update a little (22.6). The pubkey file, expires on 2048... I don't think anyone is still going to expect our old head units to work by then but... Actually, second thought, the pubkey file should only have to do with the ability for the radio to talk to the cellular towers, and I doubt ATT is going to support early gen 4G in 2048...

Edit 2: I tried the UAC update (the one with maps) on my '18, with the nav in it. Got told 22.6 was not compatible with my 21.11.11 version head unit. I didn't go into dealer/engineer mode, just plugged the drive in.
 
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Just had to buy another 8.4 (my 8.4 stopped working and would only black screen) so im trying to update my new radio (from 15.26.1) and im not sure that year its from. So ive tried updating with v17.43.01 and when i stick the flash drive into my truck nothing is happing?
 
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Just had to buy another 8.4 (my 8.4 stopped working and would only black screen) so im trying to update my new radio (from 15.26.1) and im not sure that year its from. So ive tried updating with v17.43.01 and when i stick the flash drive into my truck nothing is happing?
Radio model and PN?
ie Vp4-NA, PN: 68224525AE ( would be a USA 2014 Ra4)

Common PNs are listed in the first post with useful links
 

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Whoever sold that radio blacked out the hardware PN with a marker. You will have to go into the radio settings menu or dealer mode and see if a pn is listed to know what year it is and what times you need.

Dealer mode using the 8.4 bezel buttons...

With key in RUN, press & hold the following for 6-10secs:

TEMP UP +TEMP DOWN +FRONT DEFROST

then go into the radio info section and look for the pn
 

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Can anyone tell me where to get the canadian uconnect updates from or will the USA ones work. I bought an ebay 4C Uconnect but found out its Canadian. its on 22.6 but I would like to upgrade to 39.6 if possible as i'm having issues with a very dark backup camera ever since switching the radio out. I tried to update using the USA files but don't know if I just had the USB formatted wrong (I was using NTFS 32GB) but it says this software is not compatible with your unit.
 

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Hey folks, this is a great wealth of information and I have read for about a week and tried over and over, with no success. I have a 2014 Ram 5.7 Bighorn with 16.13.13. I have downloaded and attempted to follow the instructions and with the following images:

VP3 - 8.4AN.RA4 17.11.07, 17.43.01, 17.11.07.
VP4 - 8.4AN RA4 17.11.07 in the 13 and 14 version
VP3 - 18.45.01 MY 13-17

All of which fail with various errors. Can anyone help point me in the right direction before I continue to beat my head against the wall?

Thank you, and using the reccomended flash drive, formatted, etc.
 

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To add: H/W Part Number 68224531AJ running 16.13.13. Most recent error is: Sys Product Mismatch, stick is VP4 but target is VP3
 

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To add: H/W Part Number 68224531AJ running 16.13.13. Most recent error is: Sys Product Mismatch, stick is VP4 but target is VP3
Does your head unit have the navigation from the factory or was it activated later? Because if it was from the factory with Nav you need to be using the VP4 file. The files you listed have VP3 on two of them and VP4 on one. To see what unit you have exactly, go to settings/system information, in the Map Database line it should have VP3 or VP4 in it
 

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Does your head unit have the navigation from the factory or was it activated later? Because if it was from the factory with Nav you need to be using the VP4 file. The files you listed have VP3 on two of them and VP4 on one. To see what unit you have exactly, go to settings/system information, in the Map Database line it should have VP3 or VP4 in it
Thanks, I should have included that previously. Map Database says CMCVP3NA,NQNA2012Q4; 2013. It has Nav from the factory as far as I know, i bought it pre-owed.
 
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To add: H/W Part Number 68224531AJ running 16.13.13. Most recent error is: Sys Product Mismatch, stick is VP4 but target is VP3
You definitely have a 2014 RA3/Vp3-NA (non nav or with dealer activated nav).

You need a blank, fat32 formated 16gb thumb drive (cheap SanDisk at Walmart work good), with nothing on it.

You should be using the 2014 Ra3 file for v17.43.x from post 9. Once that zip file is downloaded, verify the md5 checksum matches for a vamos download. Then you unzip the file to your desktop and copy over the 2 files from that folder directly to the root of the drive.

Here's the quote/ details from post 9 along with the detailed instructions PDF link...

(CNET) MD5 Checker 2.31 (creator) or similar
(GET IT! You should check your downloads against MD5’s whenever they’re posted to verify a good download.)
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2014 RA3/VP3-NA (PN: 68224531Ax)
- v17.43.01 Fw Link (removes Dual Cam Support) and Update Directions Link
List of changes: TSB 08-068-18 My13_My14 17.43.01.pdf
MD5: C34A8C97BBF018ACA08E2D5DEAD9CABA

NOTE: The only files that should be on your Fat32 8gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso" and "swdl.upd"
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Once that's done, then and only then can you update to v18.45.x from the other Roll-up thread using the file for Ra3/Vp3-NA
 
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You definitely have a 2014 RA3/Vp3-NA (non nav or with dealer activated nav).

You need a blank, fat32 formated 16gb thumb drive (cheap SanDisk at Walmart work good), with nothing on it.

You should be using the 2014 Ra3 file for v17.43.x from post 9. Once that zip file is downloaded, verify the md5 checksum matches for a vamos download. Then you unzip the file to your desktop and copy over the 2 files from that folder directly to the root of the drive.

Here's the quote/ details from post 9 along with the detailed instructions PDF link...





Once that's done, then and only then can you update to v18.45.x from the other Roll-up thread using the file for Ra3/Vp3-NA
Thanks man, I really appreciate the hospitality and help. I was able to 18.45.x. Seems like my primary issue was the size of my thumbdrive or perhaps format? Anyway, working great. Looking forward to reading up on other mods and opportunities to impove the old Ram truck!
 

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I hope I do not repeat a request but I can't find the firmware I need to update my Connect, and I am not the geek on those things , I would have asked a dealer but in Switzerland this is
almost impossible as they import the vehicles but that's it. plus it would be a 350 KM (about 220 miles) drive and then they find out , that they don't know how to do it ....we know how to make cheese , butter and Chocolate but that about it.
I have attached some pictures , maybe this information is what you guys need in order to let me have the update so I have apple car working. Thanks in advance

IMG_0941 Large.jpegIMG_0943 Large.jpegIMG_0942 Large.jpeg
 

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I found the software to update , but the downer is is telling me that I have the NA software on the stick not the needed EU
 

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I followed updates up to v.17 for part number 68224537AF on a 2014 ram from version 14.25.5. Worked well no issues. Updating last version 17 was a little sketchy only because it took longer, to be expected with larger update I suppose, truck auto shut off because it was taking so long but didn’t shut off screen. Is there any point on updating to v18?

Also thanks for making this guide, I’m happy I have Siri control now.
 
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I followed updates up to v.17 for part number 68224537AF on a 2014 ram from version 14.25.5. Worked well no issues. Updating last version 17 was a little sketchy only because it took longer, to be expected with larger update I suppose, truck auto shut off because it was taking so long but didn’t shut off screen. Is there any point on updating to v18?

Also thanks for making this guide, I’m happy I have Siri control now.
V18.45.x fixes a Y2K style GPS/satellite issue so time sync and GPS location works correctly.
 

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my '18 ram seems to be stuck at 21.11.11, and I think the P/N is CNSC27N5GL. My picture taking skills cut off part of the label.

I'm going to try and update with '18 files this weekend.

My logic is, the LCD is damaged, so... I can't make it much worse. If it bricks, I'm looking at ~$200 more for the whole unit, versus just the LCD.

EDIT: So, I'm a computer guy. I decided to explore the update a little (22.6). The pubkey file, expires on 2048... I don't think anyone is still going to expect our old head units to work by then but... Actually, second thought, the pubkey file should only have to do with the ability for the radio to talk to the cellular towers, and I doubt ATT is going to support early gen 4G in 2048...

Edit 2: I tried the UAC update (the one with maps) on my '18, with the nav in it. Got told 22.6 was not compatible with my 21.11.11 version head unit. I didn't go into dealer/engineer mode, just plugged the drive in.
Can't figure out how to edit my old post. My '18 Ram 8.4 is running 39.4 now. The 28.x update installed while 22.6 didn't, but 28.x was VERY unstable. 39.4 (or w/e the "latest" we had in Septemberish) has been running flawlessly for me for months. Other than the darn busted screen. Which unfortunantly with the new AA interface, I can't navigate properly with the music pane open, as the dead columns are right where it puts the indicator. Or in "full" screen mode, I lose the ETA or mileage. (Work has me in a Silverado, so the Ram is now my toy versus my daily... Oh what plans I have now thanks to all of you guys!)
 

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My 2016 Ram 2500 like some others was made in Canada but is now down south in USA with me. Was just wanting to update my maps and add my truck to my SiriusXM account, and have been reading countless details about how to do this.
At one point I called my dealer supplying some details and was told I would have to pay (and expected some cost) $160 per version of upgrade needed to get to version needed to update my maps (this price does NOT include updated maps), which they claim is 3 versions. 15.30.2 to 16.x.x, 16.x.x to 17.11.x, and 17.11.x to 17.43.x which would be $480.00 plus tax just to update firmware. That sounds crazy to me, so thought I would see if anyone here knows what options there are, and if a DIY option where to get the files.

Software version: 15.30.2
NaviServer: 9.10.32.532696
HU Part Number from screen: 68258675AF
It is a VP4-CA
Has NAV with Map DB: CMCN4VP4NA;HMNA2014 Q2;20141213
If I need to supply more detail, please let me know. I've read through countless pages on this site, followed the Post #7 links which are no longer posted for CA download on other site, so hoping someone has what I need to update this without just chucking this one (selling) and getting a 2018/19 or newer one - which won't be for many months.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
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My 2016 Ram 2500 like some others was made in Canada but is now down south in USA with me. Was just wanting to update my maps and add my truck to my SiriusXM account, and have been reading countless details about how to do this.
At one point I called my dealer supplying some details and was told I would have to pay (and expected some cost) $160 per version of upgrade needed to get to version needed to update my maps (this price does NOT include updated maps), which they claim is 3 versions. 15.30.2 to 16.x.x, 16.x.x to 17.11.x, and 17.11.x to 17.43.x which would be $480.00 plus tax just to update firmware. That sounds crazy to me, so thought I would see if anyone here knows what options there are, and if a DIY option where to get the files.

Software version: 15.30.2
NaviServer: 9.10.32.532696
HU Part Number from screen: 68258675AF
It is a VP4-CA
Has NAV with Map DB: CMCN4VP4NA;HMNA2014 Q2;20141213
If I need to supply more detail, please let me know. I've read through countless pages on this site, followed the Post #7 links which are no longer posted for CA download on other site, so hoping someone has what I need to update this without just chucking this one (selling) and getting a 2018/19 or newer one - which won't be for many months.

Thanks in advance for your help!
I'll check and see if I have the files. If you don't here from me shoot me a PM. Whatever you do, don't pay that dealer!
 

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My 2016 Ram 2500 like some others was made in Canada but is now down south in USA with me. Was just wanting to update my maps and add my truck to my SiriusXM account, and have been reading countless details about how to do this.
At one point I called my dealer supplying some details and was told I would have to pay (and expected some cost) $160 per version of upgrade needed to get to version needed to update my maps (this price does NOT include updated maps), which they claim is 3 versions. 15.30.2 to 16.x.x, 16.x.x to 17.11.x, and 17.11.x to 17.43.x which would be $480.00 plus tax just to update firmware. That sounds crazy to me, so thought I would see if anyone here knows what options there are, and if a DIY option where to get the files.

Software version: 15.30.2
NaviServer: 9.10.32.532696
HU Part Number from screen: 68258675AF
It is a VP4-CA
Has NAV with Map DB: CMCN4VP4NA;HMNA2014 Q2;20141213
If I need to supply more detail, please let me know. I've read through countless pages on this site, followed the Post #7 links which are no longer posted for CA download on other site, so hoping someone has what I need to update this without just chucking this one (selling) and getting a 2018/19 or newer one - which won't be for many months.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Just checked. I don't have any versions but version 17.43.01 has a download link in post 7. I that not what you're looking for?


Edit: Oh I see 2014 only...sorry
 
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